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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2385 on: May 25, 2022, 08:22:03 PM »
"Abbott said the problem is mental health care, especially in rural areas."

Ted Cruz has made similar remarks.

"In 2018, a deep investigation of 63 rampage shooters conducted by experts with the FBI’s Behavioral Analysis Unit showed that only a quarter of the offenders were known to have been professionally diagnosed with a mental illness of any kind. While it’s possible that some suicidal attackers may have gone undiagnosed, only three of the 63 perpetrators, or about 5% of the total examined, had a known psychotic disorder.

Blaming mental illness for mass shootings inflicts a damaging stigma on the millions of people who suffer from clinical afflictions, the vast majority of whom are not violent. Extensive research shows the link between mental illness and violent behavior is small and not useful for predicting violent acts; people with diagnosable conditions such as schizophrenia or bipolar disorder are in fact far more likely to be victims than perpetrators of violence."
https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2022-05-21/blaming-mental-health-mass-shootings-buffalo
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2386 on: May 26, 2022, 07:21:36 AM »
The next sentence ......

"Yet no person who commits a mass shooting is, in a basic sense, mentally healthy."

The guy shot his grandmother in the face to start.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2387 on: May 26, 2022, 07:26:46 AM »
Quote from: Mn on May 26, 2022, 07:21:36 AM
The next sentence ......

"Yet no person who commits a mass shooting is, in a basic sense, mentally healthy."

The guy shot his grandmother in the face to start.

In the Venn Diagram, the mass shooters' bubble is within the wack jobs' bubble one would think.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2388 on: May 26, 2022, 02:59:56 PM »
McConnell Blesses ‘Bipartisan Solution’ on Gun Violence
https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/26/politics/mcconnell-cornyn-democrats-bipartisan-effort-gun-violence/index.html

Let's see if something comes out of this...
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2389 on: May 26, 2022, 03:10:06 PM »
Quote from: Mn on May 26, 2022, 07:21:36 AM
The next sentence ......

"Yet no person who commits a mass shooting is, in a basic sense, mentally healthy."

The guy shot his grandmother in the face to start.

Ted Cruz literally said we need to go after felons and the mentally ill. I heard him. I guess he forget to mention Muslims? /s  Of course his party wants to make homelessness a felony. /s

Maybe Republicans want to fully fund mental health care?

From what I can gather, serial and rampage killers are associated with personality disorders, not the same thing as psychoses. A fine point to a layperson or politician?

iirc, they tend to be narcissistic, paranoid, and lacking in empathy. Some are prone to fits of uncontrolled rage.

I have an acquaintance who reportedly has used compassion cultivation and insight meditation with moderate success to treat sociopathy, psychopathy, and borderline disorder.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2390 on: May 26, 2022, 07:01:00 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on May 26, 2022, 03:10:06 PM

I have an acquaintance who reportedly has used compassion cultivation and insight meditation with moderate success to treat sociopathy, psychopathy, and borderline disorder.

Have him/her/they post here and see how that works out.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2391 on: May 26, 2022, 08:10:28 PM »
Quote from: alum74 on May 26, 2022, 02:59:56 PM
McConnell Blesses ‘Bipartisan Solution’ on Gun Violence
https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/26/politics/mcconnell-cornyn-democrats-bipartisan-effort-gun-violence/index.html

Let's see if something comes out of this...

Apparently there wasn't an armed school resource officer at the school.

Chuck Schumer
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GOP Sen. Johnson just tried for a bill that could see more guns in schools—I blocked it.

The truth: There were officers at the school in Texas. The shooter got past them.

We need real solutions—We will vote on gun legislation starting with the Domestic Terrorism Prevention Act.

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This was a bill I worked on with the parents of Parkland victims. It’s named after them. You’re a liar and a hack

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2392 on: May 26, 2022, 09:49:00 PM »
From what I can gather, that district has 4 ill prepared security offices for four schools.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2393 on: May 26, 2022, 10:07:26 PM »
McConnell is no dummy.  He understands that if the GOP is seen to stonewall on this issue, it will hurt them in November. 

I think any forward movement at all would be far better than none.  You’re not going to pass anything of real significance with just one party.

P.S. Please don't invite Schumer, Johnson or Scott to the meetings. 

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2394 on: May 26, 2022, 10:58:04 PM »
I hope if they do pass something it will actually be effective and not just some salve for the bleeding hearts
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2395 on: May 26, 2022, 11:27:08 PM »
Quote from: Mn on May 26, 2022, 08:10:28 PM
Apparently there wasn't an armed school resource officer at the school.

Chuck Schumer
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GOP Sen. Johnson just tried for a bill that could see more guns in schools—I blocked it.

The truth: There were officers at the school in Texas. The shooter got past them.

We need real solutions—We will vote on gun legislation starting with the Domestic Terrorism Prevention Act.

And Rick Scott's reply

Rick Scott
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This was a bill I worked on with the parents of Parkland victims. It’s named after them. You’re a liar and a hack

Rick Scott calls someone else a liar? That's rich.

On various 2nd degree of separation, you can feel the gun nuts trying to circle around some sort of line of "give back" - they know that the public is super pissed at them and they need to get in front of it with "well, we need `common sense gun legislation' and 'mental health'" (using a Trumpian weird "we need mental health").

it's time for the Democrats to say screw these assholes and pounce. Instead of saying "well, it will be easy now to get an inch" say "fuck these assholes" and take a mile.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2396 on: May 26, 2022, 11:29:30 PM »
What’s a mile?
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2397 on: May 26, 2022, 11:31:17 PM »
Quote from: Custard on May 26, 2022, 11:29:30 PM
What’s a mile?
they don't know what a quarter pounder is, they are on the metric system
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« Reply #2398 on: May 26, 2022, 11:39:16 PM »
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2399 on: May 27, 2022, 12:30:51 AM »
Quote from: Custard on May 26, 2022, 10:58:04 PM
I hope if they do pass something it will actually be effective and not just some salve for the bleeding hearts

Aaargh!  It’s a trap Mitch!  Watch out for those sneaky l-i-b-e-r-a-l-s, Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema.
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