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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2220 on: March 31, 2022, 04:57:25 PM »
I really have nothing against trans people at all.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2221 on: March 31, 2022, 04:59:37 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on March 31, 2022, 04:57:13 PM
Those guys can go jerk off in the women's room whether they say they're trans or not.  It's a crime whether they're trans or not.  No one is defending someone's right to go jerk off in a public bathroom.  No one is defending someone's right to follow someone home.  That's a crime regardless of genitalia.

Again, whether they are a man or woman just doesn't play into it whatsoever.

You telling me men go into women’s restrooms all the time right now?! That you would have no problem walking in there and not be worried?
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2222 on: March 31, 2022, 05:00:07 PM »
For the record, trans people are more likely to BE sexually harassed or abused or attacked than be the abuser.

Maybe it's the cis people we should be worried about.
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« Reply #2223 on: March 31, 2022, 05:00:45 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on March 31, 2022, 04:59:37 PM
You telling me men go into women’s restrooms all the time right now?! That you would have no problem walking in there and not be worried?

I don't think having a dick is going to stop them.  Do you?

Jerking off in a public place or following someone home is a crime.  It's not related to sex or gender.  It has nothing to do with whether someone has a dick or not.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2224 on: March 31, 2022, 05:01:03 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on March 31, 2022, 04:53:30 PM
It?

Yuck.

Ya'll are awful.

It's kind of funny that now you have other important things to be worried about so who cares if they use the bathroom that corresponds with their gender?  You were the one that had an issue with big bearded trans dudes using the men's room, not me.

No, I've always had more important things to be worried about.  Honestly, I'm going through some pretty heavy shit right now.  Like stuff that I've never had to go through, and something I never dreamed I would have to go through.  I probably should have just kept scrolling here.

I get that you feel strongly about this.  And I apologize if me using the word "it" offended you.  It's hard to know what to call people when you don't know if they're "he" or "she".

I'm willing to just let this go, and we can agree to disagree.  I'm sorry if I offended you.  Let's just leave it at that. 

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2225 on: March 31, 2022, 05:01:38 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on March 31, 2022, 04:57:25 PM
I really have nothing against trans people at all.

Yeah, I can tell.  LOL.
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« Reply #2226 on: March 31, 2022, 05:03:50 PM »
Quote from: Jobu on March 31, 2022, 05:01:03 PM
No, I've always had more important things to be worried about.  Honestly, I'm going through some pretty heavy shit right now.  Like stuff that I've never had to go through, and something I never dreamed I would have to go through.  I probably should have just kept scrolling here.

I get that you feel strongly about this.  And I apologize if me using the word "it" offended you.  It's hard to know what to call people when you don't know if they're "he" or "she".

I'm willing to just let this go, and we can agree to disagree.  I'm sorry if I offended you.  Let's just leave it at that.

Well, we were pretty specifically talking about a trans man.  So you call him 'he'.

If you're unsure, you can ask.  If they get mad about it - and sometimes people do, trans people are assholes in similar percentages to cis people! - then they're being an asshole.  If you call them 'it', then you are.

Calling someone 'it' is incredibly dehumanizing, I would hope I don't need to explain why.
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« Reply #2227 on: March 31, 2022, 05:04:18 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on March 31, 2022, 05:01:38 PM
Yeah, I can tell.  LOL.

It’s not the trans people necessarily that I’m concerned about. I’m sure there are bad trans people just like anybody else. It’s that it opens Pandora’s Box to something that can be really bad. Lots of people imo are gonna take advantage of this and be those bad faith actors. Trans or not trans.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2228 on: March 31, 2022, 05:05:00 PM »
There must be a lot of examples of people pretending to be trans to sneak into a bathroom and commit a crime then, right?
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2229 on: March 31, 2022, 05:05:53 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on March 31, 2022, 05:03:50 PM
Well, we were pretty specifically talking about a trans man.  So you call him 'he'.

If you're unsure, you can ask.  If they get mad about it - and sometimes people do, trans people are assholes in similar percentages to cis people! - then they're being an asshole.  If you call them 'it', then you are.

Calling someone 'it' is incredibly dehumanizing, I would hope I don't need to explain why.

Fine.  Fair enough. 
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2230 on: March 31, 2022, 05:06:36 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on March 31, 2022, 05:05:00 PM
There must be a lot of examples of people pretending to be trans to sneak into a bathroom and commit a crime then, right?

Well it’s not legalized everywhere. Go walk into the women’s restroom at your local Walmart right after a little girl does and her dad is standing outside the door. Just go take a piss.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2231 on: March 31, 2022, 05:07:38 PM »
Sorry, you think trans people just now started using the bathroom that corresponds to their gender?

The only thing that happened recently is that you found out about it.
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« Reply #2232 on: March 31, 2022, 05:09:02 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on March 31, 2022, 05:06:36 PM
Well it’s not legalized everywhere. Go walk into the women’s restroom at your local Walmart right after a little girl does and her dad is standing outside the door. Just go take a piss.

Why would I do that?

I'm not a woman.

But you're advocating for those dudes in the pictures I posted earlier to HAVE TO walk by that dad into the bathroom behind his daughter.  Your view FORCES big burly bearded men into the women's room.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2233 on: March 31, 2022, 05:09:30 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on March 31, 2022, 05:07:38 PM
Sorry, you think trans people just now started using the bathroom that corresponds to their gender?

The only thing that happened recently is that you found out about it.

Isn’t it that if you’re a man with a penis then going into the women’s bathroom is being a bad faith actor, period?!
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #2234 on: March 31, 2022, 05:11:17 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on March 31, 2022, 05:09:30 PM
Isn’t if your a man with a penis then going into the women’s bathroom being a bad faith actor, period?!

What?

If you're a woman, like the picture I posted earlier of the gorgeous woman, I think you should use the women's room.  I'd feel way more uncomfortable with that woman whose picture I posted in the men's room than with those dudes.  Wouldn't you?

You want to force that woman into men's rooms, and those dudes into women's rooms, because you're so concerned about their junk.  It makes them, and I'd guess you, more uncomfortable - but their junk is what matters to you.
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