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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #450 on: July 23, 2020, 03:53:18 PM »
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #451 on: July 23, 2020, 05:00:07 PM »
Quote from: Mn on July 23, 2020, 03:53:18 PM
Quote from: illiniray on July 23, 2020, 12:51:38 PM
Who do you believe?

https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/protests/federal-officers-in-portland-chad-wolf-dhs/283-414c3ad4-d2fd-49df-a037-d7b00635193e

I don't believe everything is hunky dory, Ted. Nor do I believe the Feds are causing all the trouble.
https://therightscoop.com/mayor-of-portland-joins-the-mob-gets-tear-gassed-by-federal-agents-and-then-lies-about-why-it-happened/

The Right Scoop sounds like a credible source; if you are looking for conservative confirmation bias.

The Right Scoop reports news with a right wing bias in story selection and loaded wording that favors the right: Sarah Sanders releases blistering statement on Omarosa. Rather than sourcing this story they offer a block quote and opine about the statement. This is the norm for most stories on The Right Scoop; take a snippet of a new article and editorialize it with a right leaning bias.

A factual search reveals a failed fact check.

Overall, we rate The Right Scoop Right biased based on story selection that favors the right and Mixed for factual reporting due to poor sourcing techniques and a failed fact check
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-right-scoop/

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #452 on: July 23, 2020, 05:16:23 PM »
"Early on Tuesday morning protesters had lit bonfires in the streets around the federal courthouse and tried to ignite the plywood protecting the building. There were fewer fires at the protests early on Wednesday morning." -- NYT

"A pile of debris burned outside the federal courthouse late Wednesday night as Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler attended a nearby protest.

Tear gas was deployed at around that time and fireworks exploded near the courthouse and the Justice Center." -- KATU Portland

"Portland protesters barricaded federal officers inside a courthouse -- and tried to set the building on fire... " -- NY Post
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #453 on: July 23, 2020, 05:24:30 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on July 23, 2020, 03:14:55 PM
Quote from: Mn on July 23, 2020, 07:10:04 AM
Quote from: illiniray on July 22, 2020, 04:18:14 PM
Quote from: ILLove1997 on July 22, 2020, 04:00:50 PM

should we ignore politically motivated violence?

Of course not. Let's correctly identify who is actually instigating and committing violent acts and take appropriate action. Also, we should respect jurisdictions.

If security guards are needed at federal buildings to prevent graffiti; then post and identify them.   
Exactly what the Portland mayor should have been doing a month and a half ago. I'm glad you agree.
Identify and take action, and respect the need for the protection of federal employees and federal property from graffiti, vandalism, attempted arson and assaults on federal officers.
Maybe even ask the peaceful protesters, if there are any, to distance themselves from those instigating violence and help to identify them also so that action can be taken.
If only the problem was simply graffiti.
55 nights should be enough, Mr. Mayor.

There was a very simple way to protect that property.

Fire Derek Chauvin a dozen or so transgressions ago

you can thank the police union for that not happening
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #454 on: July 23, 2020, 05:41:47 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on July 23, 2020, 05:16:23 PM
"Early on Tuesday morning protesters had lit bonfires in the streets around the federal courthouse and tried to ignite the plywood protecting the building. There were fewer fires at the protests early on Wednesday morning." -- NYT

"A pile of debris burned outside the federal courthouse late Wednesday night as Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler attended a nearby protest.

Tear gas was deployed at around that time and fireworks exploded near the courthouse and the Justice Center." -- KATU Portland

"Portland protesters barricaded federal officers inside a courthouse -- and tried to set the building on fire... " -- NY Post

And the KATU story.
It doesn't sound like Wheeler got a great reception in the right wing bias story. Was he, and his security detail, out of there by midnight ?
I've read that most violence occurs between 1am-5am.
No Portland Police presence other than to declare a riot ?
« Last Edit: July 23, 2020, 05:58:58 PM by Mn »
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #455 on: July 23, 2020, 11:17:01 PM »
I’ve noticed this week that Cook county has some seriously shitty roads. I also found that Iroquois county has super nice roads. Even the section line farm roads are two lane blacktops that are in better shape than Indiana’s state highways.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #456 on: July 24, 2020, 06:31:02 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on July 23, 2020, 03:26:43 PM
Quote from: Custard on July 22, 2020, 09:09:17 PM

You speak as if these are mutually exclusive wants.

They aren’t.

I just did a bunch of googling and I can’t draw a correlation between red states and blue states and road and water quality whatsoever.

Le sigh.

Another bizarro situation where a lack of knowledge of how Government actually works is used to impugn Government.

Drawing a line at "states" and road quality is completely meaningless. Interstate freeways are funded by the Federal gas tax. Often what that means is places like Kentucky have great freeways because Mitch McConnell is the Senate Majority Leader, and places with a lot of turnover probably are worse at bringing home federal pork.

Most states fund State highways - for example IL-47 headed down to Champaign from the West Burbs. Those roads are state funded - but even there it comes down to whom Madigan decides to bless with more roads money.

But roads below that level are funded at the local level. When you cross the County line out of Sonoma County into Marin County - suddenly the roads become butter smooth. You're in the same state, but the roads are drastically different. If you go out to Modoc County, they have almost no local money to throw at the roads. Same state.

Even then, the comparison is pretty meaningless. Sonoma County has bad roads because it's a primarily rural county with a lot of farms and ranches,  with a huge amount of small roads, often in rugged terrain, and with more faultlines than Marin.

There's a lot of targeted federal money for local roads too. 
https://idot.illinois.gov/Assets/uploads/files/Doing-Business/Manuals-Split/Local-Roads-and-Streets/Chapter%2004.pdf





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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #457 on: July 25, 2020, 03:17:37 PM »
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #458 on: July 27, 2020, 03:44:57 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on July 23, 2020, 05:24:30 PM
Quote from: murphstahoe on July 23, 2020, 03:14:55 PM
Quote from: Mn on July 23, 2020, 07:10:04 AM
Quote from: illiniray on July 22, 2020, 04:18:14 PM
Quote from: ILLove1997 on July 22, 2020, 04:00:50 PM

should we ignore politically motivated violence?

Of course not. Let's correctly identify who is actually instigating and committing violent acts and take appropriate action. Also, we should respect jurisdictions.

If security guards are needed at federal buildings to prevent graffiti; then post and identify them.   
Exactly what the Portland mayor should have been doing a month and a half ago. I'm glad you agree.
Identify and take action, and respect the need for the protection of federal employees and federal property from graffiti, vandalism, attempted arson and assaults on federal officers.
Maybe even ask the peaceful protesters, if there are any, to distance themselves from those instigating violence and help to identify them also so that action can be taken.
If only the problem was simply graffiti.
55 nights should be enough, Mr. Mayor.

There was a very simple way to protect that property.

Fire Derek Chauvin a dozen or so transgressions ago

you can thank the police union for that not happening

That's a very creative way of not blaming the cops
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #459 on: July 27, 2020, 06:59:17 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on July 27, 2020, 03:44:57 PM
Quote from: ILLove1997 on July 23, 2020, 05:24:30 PM
Quote from: murphstahoe on July 23, 2020, 03:14:55 PM
Quote from: Mn on July 23, 2020, 07:10:04 AM
Quote from: illiniray on July 22, 2020, 04:18:14 PM
Quote from: ILLove1997 on July 22, 2020, 04:00:50 PM

should we ignore politically motivated violence?

Of course not. Let's correctly identify who is actually instigating and committing violent acts and take appropriate action. Also, we should respect jurisdictions.

If security guards are needed at federal buildings to prevent graffiti; then post and identify them.   
Exactly what the Portland mayor should have been doing a month and a half ago. I'm glad you agree.
Identify and take action, and respect the need for the protection of federal employees and federal property from graffiti, vandalism, attempted arson and assaults on federal officers.
Maybe even ask the peaceful protesters, if there are any, to distance themselves from those instigating violence and help to identify them also so that action can be taken.
If only the problem was simply graffiti.
55 nights should be enough, Mr. Mayor.

There was a very simple way to protect that property.

Fire Derek Chauvin a dozen or so transgressions ago

you can thank the police union for that not happening

That's a very creative way of not blaming the cops

all public sector unions are a problem, especially the police union
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #460 on: July 27, 2020, 07:28:44 PM »
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #461 on: July 27, 2020, 08:56:51 PM »
That’s in poor taste even for this forum.
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« Reply #462 on: July 27, 2020, 08:59:29 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on July 27, 2020, 03:44:57 PM
Quote from: ILLove1997 on July 23, 2020, 05:24:30 PM
Quote from: murphstahoe on July 23, 2020, 03:14:55 PM
Quote from: Mn on July 23, 2020, 07:10:04 AM
Quote from: illiniray on July 22, 2020, 04:18:14 PM
Quote from: ILLove1997 on July 22, 2020, 04:00:50 PM

should we ignore politically motivated violence?

Of course not. Let's correctly identify who is actually instigating and committing violent acts and take appropriate action. Also, we should respect jurisdictions.

If security guards are needed at federal buildings to prevent graffiti; then post and identify them.   
Exactly what the Portland mayor should have been doing a month and a half ago. I'm glad you agree.
Identify and take action, and respect the need for the protection of federal employees and federal property from graffiti, vandalism, attempted arson and assaults on federal officers.
Maybe even ask the peaceful protesters, if there are any, to distance themselves from those instigating violence and help to identify them also so that action can be taken.
If only the problem was simply graffiti.
55 nights should be enough, Mr. Mayor.

There was a very simple way to protect that property.

Fire Derek Chauvin a dozen or so transgressions ago

you can thank the police union for that not happening

That's a very creative way of not blaming the cops

Blaming the police union seems like a very direct way of blaming...the cops
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #463 on: July 28, 2020, 04:33:47 AM »
Quote from: Custard on July 27, 2020, 08:56:51 PM
That’s in poor taste even for this forum.

Just asking a question if he was.making a statement!
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« Reply #464 on: July 28, 2020, 08:31:29 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on July 27, 2020, 07:28:44 PM
MN, this wasn't you, was it?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/minnesota-couple-barred-walmart-after-wearing-nazi-swastika-masks-store-n1234972

lol.
Nope, rest assured, it was not me.
I did go to Wal-Mart recently to stock up on charcoal tho. They made me walk thru the store twice because the garden center doors were locked.
Thanks for your concern. 😷

I did see that Mayor Lightfoot declared that if you go to Wisco to spend a few hours in close contact with hundreds of unmasked strangers, no problem.
Don't even think about going for over 24 hours and not coming into contact with anyone, because you'll have to quarantine for 14 days.
Something to do with the virus having internal timing mechanisms ?
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