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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #8280 on: December 02, 2025, 01:08:06 PM »
« Last Edit: December 02, 2025, 01:11:43 PM by No one in Mn »

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #8281 on: December 02, 2025, 01:24:11 PM »
AI Overview

The overwhelming scientific consensus points to a natural zoonotic origin for the COVID-19 virus (SARS-CoV-2), meaning it jumped from animals to humans, likely originating in bats and possibly involving an intermediate animal host.

While a natural origin is considered the most probable explanation based on current evidence, the exact transmission pathway has not been definitively determined, and the possibility of a laboratory-associated incident cannot be completely ruled out by all agencies due to a lack of data from the Chinese government.

Key Points of Scientific Consensus

Natural Origin: Most scientists agree that SARS-CoV-2 is of probable animal origin, consistent with previous coronavirus outbreaks like SARS and MERS. Genomic analyses confirm the virus is not genetically engineered or a man-made bioweapon.

Likely Animal Reservoirs: Bats are considered the primary natural reservoir for SARS-like coronaviruses. Genetic material from susceptible intermediate hosts, such as raccoon dogs, was found in environmental samples from the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market in Wuhan, where early cases clustered.

Market Epicenter: Multiple studies have used epidemiological and genetic evidence to suggest that the Huanan market played a major role in the early transmission and amplification of the virus.

Evidence Gaps: A definitive conclusion has been hindered by a lack of access to primary data, including early patient records, detailed wildlife supply chain documentation, and laboratory records from Wuhan institutions.

Diverging Views

Despite the broad scientific consensus favoring a natural origin, the U.S. Intelligence Community remains divided:

Natural Exposure: The National Intelligence Council and several agencies assess with low confidence that natural spillover is most likely.

Laboratory-Associated Incident: The Department of Energy and the FBI assess with moderate or low confidence that a lab-associated incident is most likely. These views give weight to the inherently risky nature of some coronavirus research and proximity to research labs in Wuhan.

The World Health Organization (WHO) Scientific Advisory Group for the Origins of Novel Pathogens (SAGO) has stated that the "weight of available evidence" points towards a zoonotic spillover but emphasizes that all hypotheses must remain on the table pending additional data and transparent investigation.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #8282 on: December 02, 2025, 01:30:16 PM »
Sorry if the promo piece tugged at  your heart but enjoy his documentary

Tugged at my  brain, though I do have a heart as well.

Tug at your amygdala?

Anyway, global experts were named. Google or other search engine will yield more.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #8283 on: December 02, 2025, 04:45:06 PM »
Sorry if the promo piece tugged at  your heart but enjoy his documentary.

How did that Wuhan virus deal go ?

Better than the Epstein Files deal anyway.

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #8284 on: December 09, 2025, 12:28:38 PM »
Sounding more and more like Republicans in Congress are supporting the cartels and their boating mules.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #8285 on: December 22, 2025, 08:55:17 AM »
AI Overview (16)

The common belief that former President Jimmy Carter was solely responsible for the runaway inflation of the late 1970s, which was then solved by Ronald Reagan's policies, is a simplification of a complex economic period known as the "Great Inflation".

Economic historians widely agree that the inflation was a result of several factors and that its resolution involved actions initiated during the Carter administration.

Causes and Context

Inherited Problem: Carter inherited an economy already experiencing high inflation and "stagflation" (high inflation with little to no growth) that had started during the Nixon and Ford administrations, partly due to the U.S. coming off the gold standard and the 1973 oil shock.

External Shocks: A second major oil shock in 1979, caused by the Iranian Revolution, significantly worsened the situation, leading to soaring energy prices and long gas lines, which were largely outside of presidential control.

Monetary Policy: For much of the 1970s, the Federal Reserve's monetary policy was, in retrospect, too expansionary, aiming for low unemployment at the cost of higher inflation.
Role of Paul Volcker

The crucial turning point in fighting inflation was the appointment of Paul Volcker as Chairman of the Federal Reserve.
Carter's Appointment: In July 1979, President Carter appointed Volcker, an "inflation hawk," and granted him the autonomy to implement tough anti-inflation measures, despite knowing it would likely trigger a recession and hurt his re-election chances.

Volcker's Strategy: Volcker implemented a tight monetary policy by aggressively raising interest rates to unprecedented levels (the prime rate reached over 21% in 1981). This policy intentionally caused a severe recession in the early 1980s but succeeded in breaking the back of persistent inflation by controlling the money supply.

Reagan's Role

Ronald Reagan's administration largely supported Volcker's ongoing tight monetary policy and benefited from its results.

Continuation of Policy: Reagan kept Volcker on as Fed Chairman, which signaled a continued commitment to fighting inflation.
Economic Boom: Reagan's policies, including significant tax cuts and deregulation, helped fuel an economic boom and job creation once inflation was under control and interest rates began to drop in the mid-1980s.

Deficit Increase: While inflation fell, the combination of tax cuts and increased defense spending led to record budget deficits and a ballooning national debt, which some argue contradicts the idea that fiscal restraint alone curbed inflation.

In summary, the tough, politically difficult action that ultimately ended the "Great Inflation" was initiated under President Carter with Paul Volcker's interest rate hikes, while President Reagan presided over the subsequent economic recovery as those policies took full effect.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #8286 on: December 22, 2025, 12:33:08 PM »
I’m glad you brought this up Ray. Remember back a few years ago when we argued about inflation and you insisted that printing four trillion dollars didn’t really influence it?

Wonder what you would get if you ask AI how injecting that much money into a supply constrained economy affected inflation?

I maintain that the supply chain issues were the fire and the money printing was the gasoline.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #8287 on: December 22, 2025, 12:46:40 PM »
I’m glad you brought this up Ray. Remember back a few years ago when we argued about inflation and you insisted that printing four trillion dollars didn’t really influence it?

Wonder what you would get if you ask AI how injecting that much money into a supply constrained economy affected inflation?

I maintain that the supply chain issues were the fire and the money printing was the gasoline.

What I recall is a fed study had showed no correlation or causality between deficit spending and inflation .

Even if the stimulus packages contributed, the alternative was worse.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #8288 on: December 23, 2025, 05:20:52 PM »
Freedom of religion now means you can put “because God told me so” on your assignments and if your instructors don’t like you can have them fired.

https://www.friendlyatheist.com/p/univ-of-oklahoma-punishes-instructor
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #8289 on: December 24, 2025, 12:02:45 AM »
What I recall is a fed study had showed no correlation or causality between deficit spending and inflation .

Even if the stimulus packages contributed, the alternative was worse.

The second part is only true if you completely reject the concept of not shutting everything down like idiots in the first place. Which, many reports suggest, was actually the best option.

China essentially engaged in economic warfare on us with their zero tolerance policies that constrained supply chains needlessly for way too long. No one seems to remember that sham.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #8290 on: December 24, 2025, 08:37:58 AM »
The second part is only true if you completely reject the concept of not shutting everything down like idiots in the first place. Which, many reports suggest, was actually the best option.

China essentially engaged in economic warfare on us with their zero tolerance policies that constrained supply chains needlessly for way too long. No one seems to remember that sham.

They only shut them down for the US? Interesting.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #8291 on: December 24, 2025, 09:57:45 AM »
They only shut them down for the US? Interesting.

Like inflation only happened here and was due to Biden's policies. And let's completely ignore the wage inflation that was unique to us. Not to mention avian flu's impact on egg prices.

There's an entire alternative fact narrative that they are trying to pass off as the mainstream narrative.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #8292 on: December 25, 2025, 11:55:06 PM »
They only shut them down for the US? Interesting.

Who said that? But also, who is their largest customer and dumb enough to be so dependent on them?
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« Reply #8293 on: December 26, 2025, 09:00:54 AM »
Who said that? But also, who is their largest customer and dumb enough to be so dependent on them?

You claimed they shut them down to mess with US. You didn't mention anyone else they were messing with. Does that mean they were messing with everyone? Or, maybe, just took a draconian approach to deal with The COVID?
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« Reply #8294 on: December 26, 2025, 12:48:21 PM »
You claimed they shut them down to mess with US. You didn't mention anyone else they were messing with. Does that mean they were messing with everyone? Or, maybe, just took a draconian approach to deal with The COVID?

I think you need to reread what I actually wrote. I didn’t say it was solely on us, but it almost certainly hurt us the most. Maybe it was just draconian measures that magically raised the floor for their product prices and also demonstrated our overdependence on them. At least we are getting that sorted out now.
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