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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4905 on: February 26, 2024, 11:33:17 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on February 26, 2024, 11:01:03 AM
Except that is sitting in Qatar, I believe they were the intermediary, right now.
I never move money set aside for something so that I can pay for something else when money comes in that can then be used for that 1st something.
Never.

Nice try, comrade.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4906 on: February 26, 2024, 12:08:05 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on February 25, 2024, 11:08:52 PM
I suppose it's possible you take the Clinton's trail of bodies story seriously. ?

Anyway, US leaders do not usually have political rivals and bothersome journalists imprisoned and murdered on a regular basis.

I realize that could change if Trump is elected again. Just read his plans. Pay close attention to Stephen Miller. He controls the strings.

Yes, it seems unlikely on the face Trump could get those things done.

Just be aware there is a plan in place to overcome opposition from Congress, the Courts, and career Executive branch employees.

Trump plans to rule as a Unitary Executive.

Miller says the actions will be so swift the opposition won't know what happened. If Congress doesn't fund them; they'll simply take it from the military budget.

Not sure how this devolved into a fever dream about what Trump is going to do if he wins…but anyways I think US Presidents have a fairly extensive history of invading sovereign nations, occupying them, deposing political rivals, installing non-democratically elected dictators, killing innocent people all over the world, etc.

And if you think there aren't currently efforts underway to have political foes and journalists jailed/discredited/financially ruined right here on our own soil, you’re out of your damn mind.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4907 on: February 26, 2024, 12:14:40 PM »
Quote from: Custard on February 26, 2024, 12:08:05 PM
Not sure how this devolved into a fever dream about what Trump is going to do if he wins…but anyways I think US Presidents have a fairly extensive history of invading sovereign nations, occupying them, deposing political rivals, installing non-democratically elected dictators, killing innocent people all over the world, etc.

And if you think there aren't currently efforts underway to have political foes and journalists jailed/discredited/financially ruined right here on our own soil, you’re out of your damn mind.

Aside from what Trump and his minions have said they want to do Term 2 in speeches? Ok....
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4908 on: February 26, 2024, 12:33:45 PM »
Quote from: Custard on February 26, 2024, 12:08:05 PM
Not sure how this devolved into a fever dream about what Trump is going to do if he wins…but anyways I think US Presidents have a fairly extensive history of invading sovereign nations, occupying them, deposing political rivals, installing non-democratically elected dictators, killing innocent people all over the world, etc.

And if you think there aren't currently efforts underway to have political foes and journalists jailed/discredited/financially ruined right here on our own soil, you’re out of your damn mind.

Custard: our resident “both sides” guy.   

Sure, we’ve made plenty of mistakes in our foreign policy initiatives.  After the breakup of the Soviet Union, we could have done more diplomatically and economically to help Russia avoid descending into a mafia state.     

But if there was ever a time to support a country fighting for its independence against an aggressor state, it’s today.  Putin wanted to do this, and he did it.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4909 on: February 26, 2024, 12:57:54 PM »
Quote from: alum74 on February 26, 2024, 12:33:45 PM
Custard: our resident “both sides” guy.   

Sure, we’ve made plenty of mistakes in our foreign policy initiatives.  After the breakup of the Soviet Union, we could have done more diplomatically and economically to help Russia avoid descending into a mafia state.     

But if there was ever a time to support a country fighting for its independence against an aggressor state, it’s today.  Putin wanted to do this, and he did it.

for no reason at all, I'm sure...  ::)
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4910 on: February 26, 2024, 01:00:51 PM »
Quote from: alum74 on February 26, 2024, 12:33:45 PM
Custard: our resident “both sides” guy.   

Sure, we’ve made plenty of mistakes in our foreign policy initiatives.  After the breakup of the Soviet Union, we could have done more diplomatically and economically to help Russia avoid descending into a mafia state.     

But if there was ever a time to support a country fighting for its independence against an aggressor state, it’s today.  Putin wanted to do this, and he did it.

I'm shocked! Shocked to find that whataboutism is going on in here!

https://youtu.be/HMIyDf3gBoY?si=nGWPi5xQGQIEJZSn
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4911 on: February 26, 2024, 01:05:25 PM »
The Biden adm8nistration: any talks about Ukraine not being in NATO are off the board.
Zelensky, before the war: I have peace proposals.
The Biden administration: we don't want to hear them.

Same people: Omg. Putin invaded. It's Putin's fault.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4912 on: February 26, 2024, 01:07:38 PM »
Quote from: No one on February 26, 2024, 01:05:25 PM
The Biden adm8nistration: any talks about Ukraine not being in NATO are off the board.
Zelensky, before the war: I have peace proposals.
The Biden administration: we don't want to hear them.

Omg. Putin invaded. It's Putin's fault.

I think the key words are "Putin invaded."

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4913 on: February 26, 2024, 01:08:05 PM »
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4914 on: February 26, 2024, 01:11:41 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on February 26, 2024, 01:07:38 PM
I think the key words are "Putin invaded."


The key words are we poked the bear.

We have a southern border invasion. 'They're seeking asylum.'
Hamas invaded Israel. 'Free Palestine.' 'Aid to Gaza.'
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4915 on: February 26, 2024, 01:19:49 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on February 26, 2024, 12:57:54 PM
for no reason at all, I'm sure...  ::)

This is a reminder there have always been "America First" conservatives in the GOP.   As with Hitler, same with Putin, unfortunately.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4916 on: February 26, 2024, 01:21:26 PM »
Quote from: No one on February 26, 2024, 01:11:41 PM
The key words are we poked the bear.

We have a southern border invasion. 'They're seeking asylum.'
Hamas invaded Israel. 'Free Palestine.' 'Aid to Gaza.'

Poked the Bear. Looks like Putin did the poking and now NATO is expanding around him. Talk about a self-fulfilling prophesy.

Nonetheless, armed invasion of Ukraine: Good. Unarmed "invasion" of Hispanics into former Mexican territory: Bad.

Interesting. 
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4917 on: February 26, 2024, 01:26:42 PM »
Let me know when an American journalist is pushed off a balcony,  poisoned, or shot.

Or when a leading opposition candidate is imprisoned and dies in northern Alaska.

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This is the first time I have seen an objective summary of a candidate and his top advisor's plans called a 'fever dream'.

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4918 on: February 26, 2024, 01:26:45 PM »
Quote from: alum74 on February 26, 2024, 01:19:49 PM
This is a reminder there have always been "America First" conservatives in the GOP.   As with Hitler, same with Putin, unfortunately.

America should be the priority

Rather than sending our tax dollars (and borrowed funds) to other countries, just think how great this country would be if we spent these trillions here at home.  We could have the entire democrat wish list, free healthcare, free college, plenty of public works projects, energy dependence you name it... but instead we flush our money and our future down the toilet by sending our money overseas to corrupt shithole countries instead.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4919 on: February 26, 2024, 01:27:56 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on February 26, 2024, 01:08:05 PM
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/demented-donald-trumps-recent-blunders-32209671

Some whataboutism for everyone!
Putin would rather see Biden as President.
I agree with Trump's assessment also that Putin would rather see Biden as President.
It really is as plain as day.
He said "He did announce the other day that he'd much rather see Biden as president, and I agree with him."

And Trump's Haley/Pelosi comment did get a lot of people to actually say that Pelosi was in charge of Capitol security, or lack thereof.

jfc
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