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wtf is wrong with the right?

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4230 on: November 29, 2023, 03:43:41 PM »
Yes. Read the articles. The evidence is close to overwhelming.
I have read plenty and the evidence is more overwhelming that the virus came from a lab than being zoonotic.

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4231 on: November 29, 2023, 03:44:04 PM »
I’m not invested one way or the other but think it’s of utmost importance that we figure it out. The left seems content to push the natural origins theory and leave it at that. The right seems to want to at least entertain the idea that it had lab leak origin and to keep pushing investigation. I mean, if it killed millions, why isn’t this priority number one? Trying to kill the debate without conclusive data is sus, as the kids say.

Nope. The left is interested in letting the scientific inquiry play out.  But we’re also realistic about resolving the origins question, given the refusal of the Chinese government to cooperate with a comprehensive, multi-pronged international investigation. 

It’s not a good look either way for China. Better to leave things murky unfortunately.   
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4232 on: November 29, 2023, 03:53:41 PM »
It’s because Trump called it the Chinese Virus ad nauseum. There is no scientific consensus.

I do not know if the first is accurate. The second? Eh. I get the sense that there are a bunch of scientists who want some hard evidence from the commies that we will never have access to before they think it was lab grown.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4233 on: November 29, 2023, 03:54:11 PM »
It’s not a good look either way for China. Better to leave things murky unfortunately.   

Apparently. Now they got some illness in kids they are covering up....allegedly.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4234 on: November 29, 2023, 03:58:12 PM »
 "If SARS-CoV-2 had a laboratory origin, it would have been amplified in a laboratory through a process of serial passage typically needed to recover high-titer stocks from environmental samples. In this process, the deletion of the furin cleavage site is expected, offering a signature of laboratory handling. However, early isolates of SARS-CoV-2 show the furin cleavage site to be intact, arguing against introduction into humans after laboratory cell culture."
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"... laboratory experiments would likely have included the adaptation of a virus in common laboratory animal models such as mice to study it with ease. Thus, a laboratory-derived virus released into the population would reasonably be expected to carry these adaptive markers in their genomes. However, early isolates of SARS-CoV-2 did not carry mutations that confer adaptation to common animal models,"
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"Early cases in Wuhan involved two lineages, distinguishable by the viral genome sequence, suggesting that there were multiple events of spillover into humans. This situation is more likely to have resulted from zoonosis than a lab accident as lab accidents are relatively rare, and both lineages of SARS-CoV-2 were found in sequences from the Hunan market"

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28 March 2023
A Critical Analysis of the Evidence for the SARS-CoV-2 Origin Hypotheses
Authors: James C. Alwine, Arturo Casadevall, Lynn W. Enquist https://orcid.org/0000-0001-9968-8586, Felicia D. Goodrum https://orcid.org/0000-0002-6646-7290 fgoodrum@arizona.edu, Michael J. Imperiale
https://journals.asm.org/doi/10.1128/mbio.00583-23
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4235 on: November 29, 2023, 04:01:09 PM »
I have read plenty and the evidence is more overwhelming that the virus came from a lab than being zoonotic.

Political evidence yes. The science overwhelmingly favors zoonotic origins. It is also less interesting and harder to follow.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4236 on: November 29, 2023, 04:07:27 PM »

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4238 on: November 29, 2023, 09:09:06 PM »
I’m to the point where I don’t really trust much of anything.

Except God.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4239 on: November 29, 2023, 11:50:09 PM »
Except God.

Screw that, I do not trust Justin Fields

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4240 on: November 29, 2023, 11:51:42 PM »
I have read plenty and the evidence is more overwhelming that the virus came from a lab than being zoonotic.

This statement worked better when you had to go to the library and check out peer reviewed articles. Now you just google "Evidence that COVID was a lab leak" and get half a dozen blog posts by Kyle Rittenhouse and voila! Proof!

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4241 on: November 30, 2023, 03:01:45 AM »
Screw that, I do not trust Justin Fields

Aren’t they the same Guy? I mean look at my avatar.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4242 on: November 30, 2023, 10:25:22 AM »
Who is surprised that Murph is covering for the commies? Not this guy.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4243 on: November 30, 2023, 10:48:28 AM »
Who is surprised that Murph is covering for the commies? Not this guy.

It’s got to be tough on you when Murph’s information doesn’t conform to your beliefs or expectations. 
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4244 on: November 30, 2023, 11:04:52 AM »
Murph literally cites Kyle Rittenhouse as Mn’s source of Covid origin info but I’m exhibiting cognitive issues?

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