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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6195 on: October 03, 2024, 01:42:36 PM »
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6196 on: October 04, 2024, 09:21:44 AM »
Here you go ... Maybe the ill aptly named Freedom Caucus will allow the funds to be allocated to FEMA?

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/article293372539.html
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6197 on: October 04, 2024, 11:20:55 AM »
"Trump has repeatedly alleged that FEMA is having money issues because of funds spent on migrants, claiming at a rally Thursday that “Kamala spent all her FEMA money—billions of dollars—on housing for illegal migrants” and quoting Fox News host Jesse Watters as saying, “FEMA is now out of money, because Joe Biden and Kamala spent over a billion dollars of FEMA cash on migrants.”'
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2024/10/04/trump-fema-claim-debunked-agency-not-running-out-of-money-because-of-migrants/
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6198 on: October 04, 2024, 11:28:05 AM »
Quote from: illiniray on October 04, 2024, 11:20:55 AM
"Trump has repeatedly alleged that FEMA is having money issues because of funds spent on migrants, claiming at a rally Thursday that “Kamala spent all her FEMA money—billions of dollars—on housing for illegal migrants” and quoting Fox News host Jesse Watters as saying, “FEMA is now out of money, because Joe Biden and Kamala spent over a billion dollars of FEMA cash on migrants.”'
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2024/10/04/trump-fema-claim-debunked-agency-not-running-out-of-money-because-of-migrants/

I’m not saying it’s not a lie, but do have a question for you. If that’s not the case, then why are our own American citizens getting pennies to help assist them in this catastrophe, but migrants are getting 10x the amount of assistance?! Seems kinda fucked up don't ya think?!
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6199 on: October 04, 2024, 11:32:29 AM »
Quote from: illiniray on October 04, 2024, 11:20:55 AM
"Trump has repeatedly alleged that FEMA is having money issues because of funds spent on migrants, claiming at a rally Thursday that “Kamala spent all her FEMA money—billions of dollars—on housing for illegal migrants” and quoting Fox News host Jesse Watters as saying, “FEMA is now out of money, because Joe Biden and Kamala spent over a billion dollars of FEMA cash on migrants.”'
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2024/10/04/trump-fema-claim-debunked-agency-not-running-out-of-money-because-of-migrants/

Seems kind of deflection-ey. Why can’t these taxpayer citizens get legitimate help when we are flinging money all over the rest of the world and at people who are here illegally?

PAMan says these Americans deserve it but I’m not so sure. Have you seen the hellholes we send money to? Make western NC look like a paradise by comparison.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6200 on: October 04, 2024, 11:53:04 AM »
Quote from: Custard on October 04, 2024, 11:32:29 AM
Seems kind of deflection-ey. Why can’t these taxpayer citizens get legitimate help when we are flinging money all over the rest of the world and at people who are here illegally?

PAMan says these Americans deserve it but I’m not so sure. Have you seen the hellholes we send money to? Make western NC look like a paradise by comparison.

Per the article, the fact is that the Freedom Caucus has held the House hostage, I mean the Republicans control the House, and they have not wanted to allocate the money. Now we have people asking that Congress come back early to do so. We shall see what Johnson and McConnell do.

So blame GOP leadership for caving to the Freedom Caucus Crazies.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6201 on: October 04, 2024, 11:59:50 AM »
All I see are people pointing fingers while people are displaced at best and dying or missing at worst.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6202 on: October 04, 2024, 12:03:17 PM »
Quote from: Custard on October 04, 2024, 11:59:50 AM
All I see are people pointing fingers while people are displaced at best and dying or missing at worst.

Well, you are asking where the money is. You just don't like the answer. The Republicans didn't want to spend shit and wanted to shut the government down. Well, now their constituents, the actual people who voted for them, are paying the price.

Have your friends pressure Johnson and McConnell (who is one of your senators) to get their asses back to Washington and approve the FEMA spending.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6203 on: October 04, 2024, 12:09:34 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on October 04, 2024, 12:03:17 PM
Well, you are asking where the money is. You just don't like the answer. The Republicans didn't want to spend shit and wanted to shut the government down. Well, now their constituents, the actual people who voted for them, are paying the price.

Have your friends pressure Johnson and McConnell (who is one of your senators) to get their asses back to Washington and approve the FEMA spending.

They're not gonna do that. They're just gonna bitch about how much we're spending in Ukraine, and we can't help our own and blah.

There is money to help these people. Problem is, these people repeatedly tell everyone that they don't want help, and they want basically no federal government. Until now, when they need the federal government. You can't have it both ways.

So, you know what? Fuck em. They made their fucking bed.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6204 on: October 04, 2024, 12:14:24 PM »
Quote from: Jobu on October 04, 2024, 12:09:34 PM
They're not gonna do that. They're just gonna bitch about how much we're spending in Ukraine, and we can't help our own and blah.

There is money to help these people. Problem is, these people repeatedly tell everyone that they don't want help, and they want basically no federal government. Until now, when they need the federal government. You can't have it both ways.

So, you know what? Fuck em. They made their fucking bed.

Now Jobu, we know what they would say in those Jesus Gets Us ads. Maybe this will help them have empathy for others who are less fortunate.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #6205 on: October 04, 2024, 12:19:33 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on October 04, 2024, 12:14:24 PM
Now Jobu, we know what they would say in those Jesus Gets Us ads. Maybe this will help them have empathy for others who are less fortunate.

Oh, I'm sure it will. When the gov'ment rebuilds their house and their town, they'll fully understand and just be so fucking empathetic.
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« Reply #6206 on: October 04, 2024, 12:25:36 PM »
Quote from: Jobu on October 04, 2024, 12:09:34 PM
They're not gonna do that. They're just gonna bitch about how much we're spending in Ukraine, and we can't help our own and blah.

There is money to help these people. Problem is, these people repeatedly tell everyone that they don't want help, and they want basically no federal government. Until now, when they need the federal government. You can't have it both ways.

So, you know what? Fuck em. They made their fucking bed.

Yes the Democrats dying in blue western NC should go fuck themselves because you went hook, line and sinker on the trope that the Republicans are fucking over Republicans and it’s this huge GOTCHA moment. It’s not. It’s a humanitarian crisis that puts a magnifying glass on our spending priorities in this country. You guys are as guilty of using it as political fodder as the people on the right triggering you with memes about Ukraine. 
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« Reply #6207 on: October 04, 2024, 12:31:54 PM »
Quote from: Custard on October 04, 2024, 12:25:36 PM
Yes the Democrats dying in blue western NC should go fuck themselves because you went hook, line and sinker on the trope that the Republicans are fucking over Republicans and it’s this huge GOTCHA moment. It’s not. It’s a humanitarian crisis that puts a magnifying glass on our spending priorities in this country. You guys are as guilty of using it as political fodder as the people on the right triggering you with memes about Ukraine.

Us guys? Lol, I'm not a democrat. Or a republican. I'm largely anti politics. What I am anti is people that beg for small government until they need big government. Pick a fucking lane.

It's absolutely a crisis. These people are suffering. But would these people have any kind of empathy for others in their same situation?

Fuck no. "Pull yourself up by your fucking bootstraps, son, and figure it out. My tax dollars shouldn't go toward your problems. Figure it out."

I've heard people say that to people whose houses got destroyed by a fucking tornado. I actually heard those words. It was bullshit then, and it's bullshit now. I feel bad for these people, but they need to understand that when they back small government, that's what the fuck they should get.

Except most of them are cashing government checks at least once or twice a month anyway.
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« Reply #6208 on: October 04, 2024, 12:40:53 PM »
It’s that stereotype you’re throwing out that I have problems with. Are there people like that? Of course. You and PAMan, Tempo, etc have all labeled these flood victims as small government lovers who get welfare and voted against disaster relief. At least murph, who usually would let stuff like this slide if it worked in his political favor, even chimed in and said, uh guys, western NC is pretty blue and voted for Biden by 20 points. Someone needs to pick a lane, just not sure it’s me.

If you’re talking generally about conservative idiots online posting memes conflating Ukraine aid with NC aid, and who want small government but also want aid to NC, then yeah I get that a little more. But even so, the Republicans really seem to want money to help western NC, which is a blue area; so that doesn’t even line up really. What I really think is that those people as a whole have been mad about sending so much money overseas when we need it here in the states. Which actually used to be a kind of liberal thing to say.
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« Reply #6209 on: October 04, 2024, 12:47:34 PM »
Quote from: Custard on October 04, 2024, 12:40:53 PM
If you’re talking generally about conservative idiots online posting memes conflating Ukraine aid with NC aid, and who want small government but also want aid to NC, then yeah I get that a little more. But even so, the Republicans really seem to want money to help western NC, which is a blue area; so that doesn’t even line up really. What I really think is that those people as a whole have been mad about sending so much money overseas when we need it here in the states. Which actually used to be a kind of liberal thing to say.

Yes, this is what I'm talking about. Like Golf's cute little map with NC being labeled "Ukraine" to get more money. That's just fucking stupid.

Republicans, and Democrats, don't want to actually help people. They want to get votes. That's where we are.
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