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Hey Tempo, Guenther Jr. Says "Show Up Earlier"for the VA Game Sat 9/10

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Re: Hey Tempo, Guenther Jr. Says "Show Up Earlier"for the VA Game Sat 9/10
« Reply #75 on: September 10, 2022, 09:33:52 PM »
I wonder if tempo remembered to watch the game 🤔
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Re: Hey Tempo, Guenther Jr. Says "Show Up Earlier"for the VA Game Sat 9/10
« Reply #76 on: September 10, 2022, 09:35:37 PM »
Ryan Walters will get an SEC job again or HC chance at a smaller school.   He’s too good for Illinois.  Phenomenal defensive effort.  0-15 on 3rd down. 

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Re: Hey Tempo, Guenther Jr. Says "Show Up Earlier"for the VA Game Sat 9/10
« Reply #77 on: September 10, 2022, 09:56:50 PM »
Ryan Walters will get an SEC job again or HC chance at a smaller school.   He’s too good for Illinois.  Phenomenal defensive effort.  0-15 on 3rd down.

He’s a top-10 paid assistant. He’ll only leave here for a HC job. Take that to the bank. And that very well could be next season or sooner rather than later in my opinion.
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Re: Hey Tempo, Guenther Jr. Says "Show Up Earlier"for the VA Game Sat 9/10
« Reply #78 on: September 10, 2022, 10:07:55 PM »
Hey fuckers! Late to the party.

Attendance: embarrassing
Kicking:embarrassing
Defense: I like
Offense: Still needs work. Enought of the turnovers.Good lord!

Not sure we go bowling this year. But this is still better than Lovie ball. Bret needs to download the Noom app



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Re: Hey Tempo, Guenther Jr. Says "Show Up Earlier"for the VA Game Sat 9/10
« Reply #79 on: September 10, 2022, 10:36:37 PM »
I thought IU was a must win and this would be a decisive L. Guess it evens out.  As mentioned earlier B1G west looks like hot garbage. Probably should make the six win mark. I haven’t seen a second of the game yet but 24-3 against a P5 opponent isn’t something we really do, like, ever. Sounds like some sloppy play and mistakes again that need work. Agree that Walters will probably end up somewhere else sooner than later. I think the place kicking will get better, Griffin is a high level talent that needs more game experience.
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Re: Hey Tempo, Guenther Jr. Says "Show Up Earlier"for the VA Game Sat 9/10
« Reply #80 on: September 10, 2022, 11:06:33 PM »
Hey fuckers! Late to the party.

Attendance: embarrassing
Kicking:embarrassing
Defense: I like
Offense: Still needs work. Enought of the turnovers.Good lord!

Not sure we go bowling this year. But this is still better than Lovie ball. Bret needs to download the Noom app

I think Bielema has gotten Illinois into the Jerry Kill Minnesota level, and if he maintains that I think fans will be fine with it.  Close competitive football.  It’s a low bar but it’s Illinois football. It’s not going to fill the stands, it’s not going to be the best Zook years, or best Turner years, but it’s acceptable.

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Re: Hey Tempo, Guenther Jr. Says "Show Up Earlier"for the VA Game Sat 9/10
« Reply #81 on: September 10, 2022, 11:15:00 PM »
I think Bielema has gotten Illinois into the Jerry Kill Minnesota level, and if he maintains that I think fans will be fine with it.  Close competitive football.  It’s a low bar but it’s Illinois football. It’s not going to fill the stands, it’s not going to be the best Zook years, or best Turner years, but it’s acceptable.

Well, if you can get into the stadium and get a concession of your choice without missing 3/4 of the game, people may travel  to see a competitive Illinois team. Especially if 11am games are not the default start time.

It would be nice if they found someone who could come in and do something different for the game day experience that would make people want to be there.
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Re: Hey Tempo, Guenther Jr. Says "Show Up Earlier"for the VA Game Sat 9/10
« Reply #82 on: September 10, 2022, 11:33:38 PM »
He’s a top-10 paid assistant. He’ll only leave here for a HC job. Take that to the bank. And that very well could be next season or sooner rather than later in my opinion.


If blueblood teams like Oklahoma, USC, Georgia, Alabama, Michigan, Ohio State, LSU, Texas AM, Texas, Florida were to come calling it’d be very hard to keep him even if the money were matched as DC. It’s be a Self/Kansas or Antigua/Kentucky situation. 

Walters fought an uphill battle at Mizzou, and is doing the same thing at Illinois. Prospective teams are probably thinking if he can get great results with minimal resources, think what he could do with great resources.

You can tell how good he is bc he’s taking guys that Lovie recruited and getting way more out of them than Lovie ever did. 

If even a hater like myself can appreciate his success, other teams certainly can.


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Re: Hey Tempo, Guenther Jr. Says "Show Up Earlier"for the VA Game Sat 9/10
« Reply #83 on: September 10, 2022, 11:44:42 PM »
Well, if you can get into the stadium and get a concession of your choice without missing 3/4 of the game, people may travel  to see a competitive Illinois team. Especially if 11am games are not the default start time.

It would be nice if they found someone who could come in and do something different for the game day experience that would make people want to be there.

I think unless Illinois has an unusually great team (2001 or 2007), the football attendance is dead.  Sure the Stadium environment is sterile.  Most football attendance in average years is driven by the desire to come back to campus to relive the pageantry/traditions etc.

But with the Chief dead, Fight Song dead, an entire lost generation of younger alums (08-22) who saw nothing but bad football which created no attachments, older fans who did see success but are now too old too attend games (1980s)- I think it’s dead.

People could argue but basketball is still popular.  But selling out 15,000 in the winter time is lot easier than getting 60,000-70,000 to spend a fall weekend in Champaign

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Re: Hey Tempo, Guenther Jr. Says "Show Up Earlier"for the VA Game Sat 9/10
« Reply #84 on: September 10, 2022, 11:53:01 PM »
The interesting thing is Tim Anderson, Chester Frazier, and Geoff Alexander are quite possibly a net gain over Orlando Antigua, Chin Coleman, and Stephen Gentry.

When Walters gets "promoted" Bret Bielema will be like Brad Underwood and find a quality replacement.
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Re: Hey Tempo, Guenther Jr. Says "Show Up Earlier"for the VA Game Sat 9/10
« Reply #85 on: September 11, 2022, 12:01:53 AM »
There are enough people in Illini country to get a good crowd there if they market it right.

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Re: Hey Tempo, Guenther Jr. Says "Show Up Earlier"for the VA Game Sat 9/10
« Reply #86 on: September 11, 2022, 12:34:06 AM »
Yeah just win. In the meantime give out a lot of free tickets and make sure they download them prior to the game.
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Re: Hey Tempo, Guenther Jr. Says "Show Up Earlier"for the VA Game Sat 9/10
« Reply #87 on: September 11, 2022, 08:16:30 AM »
Yeah just win. In the meantime give out a lot of free tickets and make sure they download them prior to the game.

"Winning" won't do it. We've all see them have one good/decent year and then fall off the cliff again. (But it has been awhile.) It will take consecutive years of winning at this point.
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Re: Hey Tempo, Guenther Jr. Says "Show Up Earlier"for the VA Game Sat 9/10
« Reply #88 on: September 11, 2022, 08:20:56 AM »
I think unless Illinois has an unusually great team (2001 or 2007), the football attendance is dead.  Sure the Stadium environment is sterile.  Most football attendance in average years is driven by the desire to come back to campus to relive the pageantry/traditions etc.

But with the Chief dead, Fight Song dead, an entire lost generation of younger alums (08-22) who saw nothing but bad football which created no attachments, older fans who did see success but are now too old too attend games (1980s)- I think it’s dead.

People could argue but basketball is still popular.  But selling out 15,000 in the winter time is lot easier than getting 60,000-70,000 to spend a fall weekend in Champaign

Are people not going because of the Chief? That is just an excuse, I think. They are not going because the program has been a dumpster fire as you say.

Winning would cure a lot. But they will need "winning plus X" to get people to show up. The question is, what is "X"? I can't say I've sought to contemplate it until now.
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Re: Hey Tempo, Guenther Jr. Says "Show Up Earlier"for the VA Game Sat 9/10
« Reply #89 on: September 11, 2022, 08:38:31 AM »
Are people not going because of the Chief? That is just an excuse, I think. They are not going because the program has been a dumpster fire as you say.

Winning would cure a lot. But they will need "winning plus X" to get people to show up. The question is, what is "X"? I can't say I've sought to contemplate it until now.

I think a lot of people stopped going because of the Chief. And then once that habit of going is broken, it’s much harder to regain those people.

I think sports attendance is a very habitual thing.  So any reason that breaks the habit (Chief, Losing, University politics, all games are on TV, loss of traditions, disillusionment with campus, student demographics ) , it’s going to be much much harder to bring those people back if they find other stuff to do.

But most forms of entertainment are like that. It’s really prevalent with things like DirectTV or SiriusXM radio.  Those companies give out huge discounts for renewals because they know if consumers cut their service and realize they don’t miss it, it’s very hard to get them back.

Illinois is really in a pickle at trying to retain season ticket holders bc they can’t just give massive discounts like a satellite company could. 

I think you are right that there has to be an “X” other than winning. I think attendance in pro sports is driven by mostly just winning.  But college sports you need something else.
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