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WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?

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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #645 on: February 23, 2023, 02:04:12 PM »
oh god who cares its a disaster why do we need to assign blame or make it some stupid political football

just clean this shit up and help out those affected
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #646 on: February 23, 2023, 02:09:51 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on February 23, 2023, 01:53:51 PM
I read on the National Palestinian Radio website that the Obama rule required the brakes for trains with at least 20 cars carrying toxic stuff. This train was under that 20 car minimum. 
The 'we followed the regulations that have been in place since 2015' argument.
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #647 on: February 23, 2023, 02:37:25 PM »
Quote from: Mn on February 23, 2023, 12:52:08 PM

This appears to be an Obama rule issue. But Orange Man bad.

How exactly is this Obama's fault?  His regulation was not strict enough. Was Trump's deregulation an improvement?
« Last Edit: February 23, 2023, 02:42:50 PM by illiniray »
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #648 on: February 23, 2023, 02:48:23 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on February 23, 2023, 02:04:12 PM
oh god who cares its a disaster why do we need to assign blame or make it some stupid political football

just clean this shit up and help out those affected

Because it is apprently not being taken care of?
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #649 on: February 23, 2023, 02:49:19 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on February 23, 2023, 02:37:25 PM
How exactly is this Obama's fault?  His regulation was not strict enough. Was Trump's deregulation an improvement?

If Obama would have made the stricter reg, Trump would not have dumped it.
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #650 on: February 23, 2023, 03:02:55 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on February 23, 2023, 02:37:25 PM
How exactly is this Obama's fault?  His regulation was not strict enough. Was Trump's deregulation an improvement?
The hazardous train categorization was an NTSB proposal that was not approved under Obama.
I didn't say it was Obama's fault.

And Trump's deregulation apparently is not a contributing factor in the East Palestine derailment.
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #651 on: February 23, 2023, 03:15:05 PM »
Quote from: Mn on February 23, 2023, 03:02:55 PM
The hazardous train categorization was an NTSB proposal that was not approved under Obama.
I didn't say it was Obama's fault.

And Trump's deregulation apparently is not a contributing factor in the East Palestine derailment.

NTSB initial finding is that it was preventable.

https://www.axios.com/2023/02/23/ohio-chemical-train-derailment-ntsb-investigation?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axiospm&stream=top
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #652 on: February 23, 2023, 03:57:03 PM »
The mayor is jag off.  Right after it happened, he was interviewed and suggested it was best Biden not come.  He didn't want the POTUS entourage getting in everyone's way.  A week later he's on Fox Noise complaining that he didn't come.   
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #653 on: February 23, 2023, 04:09:49 PM »
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #654 on: February 23, 2023, 04:12:59 PM »
Quote from: Mn on February 23, 2023, 04:09:49 PM
If the train hadn't left the station, the accident wouldn't have happened.

Thanks, Obama.
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #655 on: February 23, 2023, 04:55:25 PM »
I dunno why Republicans think pols showing up to tour the border or disaster sites is so important. Might as well send thoughts and prayers.

Stay home.  Send the experts.
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #656 on: February 23, 2023, 05:06:36 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on February 23, 2023, 04:55:25 PM
I dunno why Republicans think pols showing up to tour the border or disaster sites is so important. Might as well send thoughts and prayers.

Stay home.  Send the experts.

Maybe to try and win future elections? I know that is odd to some people.....
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #657 on: February 23, 2023, 05:23:40 PM »
The same reason Dems impose meaningless regs. Symbolism over substance.
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #658 on: February 23, 2023, 08:09:21 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on February 23, 2023, 03:15:05 PM
NTSB initial finding is that it was preventable.

https://www.axios.com/2023/02/23/ohio-chemical-train-derailment-ntsb-investigation?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axiospm&stream=top

“Rail workers, government officials, and industry analysts have long warned that such disasters are an expected consequence of an industry that has aggressively cut costs, slashed its workforce, and resisted regulation for years.”
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/23597778/ohio-train-east-palestine-trainwreck-accident-chemical-norfolk

Will be interesting to see if we learn anything from this derailment and take appropriate steps to prevent the next disaster.   
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #659 on: February 23, 2023, 08:56:51 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on February 23, 2023, 01:53:51 PM
I read on the National Palestinian Radio website that the Obama rule required the brakes for trains with at least 20 cars carrying toxic stuff. This train was under that 20 car minimum.

Thought I heard this train was 150 cars.
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