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WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?

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You know what’s also driving a lot of consumer confidence issues right now? Massive layoffs and job uncertainty due to AI.

You want to talk about a driver of inequality, let’s talk about AI. Killing off lower and middle class jobs while enriching the more monied classes who are invested in it.

Haven’t seen anyone griping about that here because people are too worried about people who entered this country illegally. Priorities man!

Nice try,  AI adoption PLUS softening consumer and corporate spending and rising costs are driving belt tightening and hiring slowdowns.

Thanks Trump.

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You know what’s also driving a lot of consumer confidence issues right now? Massive layoffs and job uncertainty due to AI.

You want to talk about a driver of inequality, let’s talk about AI. Killing off lower and middle class jobs while enriching the more monied classes who are invested in it.

Haven’t seen anyone griping about that here because people are too worried about people who entered this country illegally. Priorities man!


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Nice try,  AI adoption PLUS softening consumer and corporate spending and rising costs are driving belt tightening and hiring slowdowns.

Thanks Trump.

Except PCE and CAPEX are actually UP in 2H 2025, not down.

The polls keep saying that confidence is down, which is a leading indicator that spending will fall a few months later. But it’s been down like 10 months straight and spending hasn’t tracked the way it normally does.

Seems like every poll regarding anything Trump touches since, oh, 2015 or so, can’t be trusted. Shocker!

Hate to rain on your gloomer parade, but things are pretty good.
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Inflation isn’t meaningfully higher…. But the bad orange man told us he was going to lower prices - which means deflation, not “inflation isn’t meaningfully higher”

Illiniray told us deflation is worse than high inflation?!?!?

The prices on a lot of the stuff I buy have been steadily going down for months. Gas alone being considerably lower more than offsets what most families had been paying extra for bananas and coffee. But I don’t buy a bunch of throwaway shit from China so ymmv.

Still waiting for someone to produce some shred of evidence of the runaway prices that are killing every day Americans.
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Deflation: What is, Causes, Impact, Pros & Cons and Real Example
Deflation is the sustained decrease in the general price level of goods and services, often caused by a reduction in the money supply or credit, and can signal an economic downturn. While lower prices can increase purchasing power, deflation can also lead to negative consequences like reduced spending, higher unemployment, and an increased real burden of debt, potentially causing a deflationary spiral. Examples of deflation include the Great Depression and periods of significant economic contraction.

Causes and effects

Causes: Deflation can be caused by factors such as a decrease in consumer demand, a tight monetary policy, or advances in productivity and technology that lower production costs.

Effects:

Positive: Consumers can benefit from lower prices and increased purchasing power.

Negative: It can lead to a drop in wages and employment as businesses cut costs.
Debt: It makes borrowing more expensive in real terms because the value of the money owed increases, which can lead to more defaults.

Economic spiral: A cycle can begin where people delay spending in anticipation of further price drops, which further reduces demand and economic activity.

Deflation vs. Disinflation
Deflation is a negative inflation rate (prices are falling).
Disinflation is when the inflation rate slows down but remains positive (prices are still rising, but at a slower pace).

Examples
The Great Depression: A major period of severe deflation from 1929 to 1939.

The Great Recession: A brief period of deflation occurred in the U.S. between March and October 2009.

Technology: Deflation in specific sectors, such as consumer electronics, can happen due to technological advancements that lower costs.

How to combat deflation

Government and central banks can combat deflation by implementing expansionary policies, such as lowering interest rates, increasing government spending, and reducing taxes.

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I know Custard - who's just shotposting as a troll in his spare time, will amuse himself squaring these two things, but I wonder what Mn, who seems to be a true believer, does the same.

Trump: Pro-crypto or Pro-crime?

Or are they the same thing?

Paul Krugman
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On one side, the Trump administration is sinking small boats that it claims, without evidence, are smuggling drugs — and according to the Washington Post, Pete Hegseth, the self-styled Secretary of War, has personally ordered at least one follow-up strike to kill the survivors. A working group of former JAGs, that is, members of the military’s legal branch, issued a statement declaring that it unanimously considers both the giving and the execution of these orders, if true, to constitute war crimes, murder, or both.

On the other side, Donald Trump has declared his intention to grant “a Full and Complete Pardon” to Juan Orlando Hernández, a former president of Honduras who has been convicted of conspiring to import cocaine into the United States. In fact, Hernandez was part of a cartel, including his brother, that smuggled hundreds of tons of cocaine into this country.

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I know Custard - who's just shotposting as a troll in his spare time, will amuse himself squaring these two things, but I wonder what Mn, who seems to be a true believer, does the same.

Trump: Pro-crypto or Pro-crime?

Or are they the same thing?

Paul Krugman
Dec 1
   
On one side, the Trump administration is sinking small boats that it claims, without evidence, are smuggling drugs — and according to the Washington Post, Pete Hegseth, the self-styled Secretary of War, has personally ordered at least one follow-up strike to kill the survivors. A working group of former JAGs, that is, members of the military’s legal branch, issued a statement declaring that it unanimously considers both the giving and the execution of these orders, if true, to constitute war crimes, murder, or both.

On the other side, Donald Trump has declared his intention to grant “a Full and Complete Pardon” to Juan Orlando Hernández, a former president of Honduras who has been convicted of conspiring to import cocaine into the United States. In fact, Hernandez was part of a cartel, including his brother, that smuggled hundreds of tons of cocaine into this country.

The case is under appeal and Trump seems to think he was railroaded. Or maybe it’s some form of political favor. I didn’t complain about AutoPen’s pardons and I’m not going to complain about Trump’s.

Why do you love drug smugglers and illegals so much? It’s amazing how Trump has exposed the bulk of the Democrat party as openly pro-China, pro-illegal immigrant, pro-Hamas, pro-drug, euro commie worshipping America last clowns.
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The case is under appeal and Trump seems to think he was railroaded. Or maybe it’s some form of political favor. I didn’t complain about AutoPen’s pardons and I’m not going to complain about Trump’s.

Why do you love drug smugglers and illegals so much? It’s amazing how Trump has exposed the bulk of the Democrat party as openly pro-China, pro-illegal immigrant, pro-Hamas, pro-drug, euro commie worshipping America last clowns.

Honduran President convicted - "Case under appeal, what's the issue?"

Random boat in the ocean - "Must be drug smugglers, sink em"

If the case is under appeal, why the pardon? Did he order the code red?

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Fugly



Not big into the gilded aesthetic?
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For when you invite too many people to your 1st State dinner.
The portable heaters added a nice touch.


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Not big into the gilded aesthetic?

Ostentatious might be an understatement.
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that's pretty beautiful, might wanna get your eyes checked

or would you rather have them do the gastro pub aesthetic with metal chairs, edison bulbs, cement flooring and shitty reclaimed wood everywhere
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