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WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?

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Custard

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I’m fairly certain red meat being “one of the healthiest foods we can eat” is pretty far from “factual.”

I am too lazy to look, did I actually make that quote?
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Shrimp for under $7? Is Tennessee still in the 90s?

This was at Aldi and they shrinkflated them to 12 oz. So it’s more like $10/lb and it’s farm raised.
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Murph, can you share some of your designer eggs with Tempo?

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I haven't heard much about glyphosate being used as a dessicant, especially since RR beans are so prevalent now. It's pretty much paraquat or glufosinate. Or select the right maturity soybeans and plant them when you're supposed to plant them.

There are a lot of studies done on IR and HT proteins and their safety long before they hit the market. They have to pass certain thresholds. Are the thresholds high enough? Who knows, but companies aren't just inventing this shit and going straight to market with it.

If I know a cow spent its life eating Bt or RR corn, and gets butchered, I'm eating the fucker. I do not care. There are so many other things to worry about getting you than GMOs.

And try taking conventional, organic corn to the elevator with aflatoxin in it lol. Have fun taking it back home.

It’s not really the GMOs that worry me, the proteins that kill insects or provide herbicide resistant are mostly expressed in tissue that humans don’t even consume.

I am concerned about glyphosate being present in a large percentage of grains like oats and wheat that make up a lot of the carbs we consume domestically. Those are the crops primarily being sprayed with glyphosate as a desiccant.

It’s not like my family abstains from eating anything that could have pesticides in it, it would be impossible, and I eat at restaurants frequently because I travel a lot for work. I don’t care if the cow ate RR or bT corn or soybeans soaked in glyphosate, I’ll eat it the same as you because the animal does a remarkable job of filtering that shit out. Grass fed beef or bison would be even better, but I’m not paying what it commands.

But I do try to limit our exposure to pesticides at home. This is all new territory for humanity and I’d rather exercise a little caution now by buying organic pasta, bread, flour and veggies etc and at least cut some of it out. And even just a couple of years ago I thought organic anything was absolute bullshit.

People eating the standard American diet aren’t doing so great.  It’s not that hard to connect the dots really and try to be healthier. That’s all I’m after.
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Reading this, I do have to laugh at your original premise on the $1.99 eggs from Aldi. You buy "Non-GMO spray" and Organic strawberries, then you go out and buy what are probably the worst of the worst eggs in the US.

Petaluma, near us, was known as "The World's Egg Basket" and still has pretty big production, pretty much all of it organic pasture raised. So I talk to a lot of egg farmers and they have some very gnarly things to say about those cheap $2/dozen factory farmed eggs. Basically "they are good for dying colors at Easter but don't eat them".

We pay $8/dozen for pasture raised eggs, from a vending machine that the farmer has in his front yard, or the same price from another family that puts them in a refrigerator on their front porch and you put the money into a shoebox.

Aside from whatever shit is in those eggs, those cheap Aldi eggs have yolks that are a sickly pale yellow, ours are deep orange. Taste so much better. And 100% goes to the farmer, not some cheap ass german grocery store that is automating out 'Merican jobs, you commie.

https://www.sonomacounty.com/articles/what-petaluma-famous/#:~:text=Formally%20known%20as%20the%20%E2%80%9CEgg,foodie%20haven%20in%20Northern%20California.

The Aldi eggs come from the same big egg farms all the other supermarket eggs come from. Are they the same as free range chickens? No, but they’re fine for recipes and baking.

We actually have free range-ish chickens but something got into the coop last week and we are down to three hens currently. You want to talk about expensive eggs…this project has been nothing but a money pit because it turns out that a shocking number of modern women are obsessed with chicken husbandry.
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But I do try to limit our exposure to pesticides at home. This is all new territory for humanity and I’d rather exercise a little caution now by buying organic pasta, bread, flour and veggies etc and at least cut some of it out. And even just a couple of years ago I thought organic anything was absolute bullshit.

People eating the standard American diet aren’t doing so great.  It’s not that hard to connect the dots really and try to be healthier. That’s all I’m after.

Conventional Eggs
Conventional eggs, are not the most ethical or nutritional eggs available. Hens that lay conventional eggs are housed inside climate-controlled barns in stacked rows of cages. Inside of the cages, birds are given continual access to water and food. However, each bird is only given a small amount of space to live in, approximately the size of a sheet of paper. Additionally, because the hens live in such close proximity to one another, the chances of conventional eggs carrying salmonella bacteria is 7 times higher than cage-free eggs. Not to mention, that these birds are also fed poor quality feed that often contains antibiotics and hormones -- so, if you are what you eat -- well, you get the idea. Conventional eggs are not the best option to buy.

Under the USDA Organic Certification Requirements, organic eggs must come from chickens that are fed only organic feed free of animal by-products, synthetic fertilizers, pesticides or chemical additives. These chickens must not be given any antibiotics or hormones either

Organic eggs are also the most nutritional egg option available. Since the hens are fed high quality feed and live better lives, they produce fresher eggs that contain more nutrients. In fact, you can see the nutritional difference between a conventional and organic egg simply by comparing their yolks. Organic eggs will almost always have a a richer, orange color that will taste so much fresher than conventional eggs.

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The Aldi eggs come from the same big egg farms all the other supermarket eggs come from. Are they the same as free range chickens? No, but they’re fine for recipes and baking.

So.... if you are baking - you MUST use the organic flour, but the shitty salmonella laced factory eggs with hormones and pesticides and little nutritional value are great.

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So.... if you are baking - you MUST use the organic flour, but the shitty salmonella laced factory eggs with hormones and pesticides and little nutritional value are great.

Chickens don’t get fed hormones. I also don’t have a problem with them being treated with antibiotics when they get sick and they follow the withdrawal guidelines.

I literally just said I’m not trying to avoid everything. I was also just talking about pesticide residue on grains, and how animals mostly filter those out. Megafarm raised eggs still have good nutritional content, just not *as good* as organic.

I’ve still yet to ever get salmonella
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I am too lazy to look, did I actually make that quote?


It’s really really close to what  you said.

« Last Edit: October 02, 2025, 01:14:45 PM by Low Energy Lower IQ »
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It’s really really close to what  you said.



There’s really no reason a fresh cut of lean beef is unhealthy. It is rich in a lot of macro nutrients and vitamins and minerals that are lacking in a lot of diets. Most people that are vegan have to supplement to get essential nutrients that are in beef. A lot of the science used to demonize red meat such as dietary cholesterol and saturated fat intake has changed over time. There’s some science that says if cooked over high heat it can produce certain compounds that could potentially be carcinogenic. I’m guessing if you char veggies or fruit they probably produce some nasty compounds too.

The biggest problem I have with the “science“ around red meat being “unhealthy“ is that, as I’ve discussed before, they lump in all the cured smoked salted crap with fresh cuts.

They also count a fast food hamburger the same way they do as a lean sirloin steak from a grass fed animal. There are too many variables to isolate exactly what is doing what. I’d wager pretty much anything that the bun in that fast food burger is way worse for you than the beef.

So when you see studies or broad claims that say red meat is associated with such and such, they’re looking at a lot of data and forming an association that might not even have anything to do with beef itself and rather much more to do with processed meat or the insulin spike buns and all the shit that goes into them.

It’s lazy science and it’s basically shifted people away from eating a healthy protein and binging on shitty processed carbs. Because those are grains and therefore healthy. lol. Oh and don’t forget that beef is a huge target for environmentalists and climate change alarmists which definitely plays a role in the war on beef production.
« Last Edit: October 02, 2025, 01:31:00 PM by Custard »
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Who ‘members when Trump “didn’t know anything about Project 2025?” I ‘member.

Wanting America to be better is not America-hating, it’s patriotism.


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There’s really no reason a fresh cut of lean beef is unhealthy.

so... you'll pay the premium for fresh cuts of lean beef instead of shitty hamburger, but you won't pony up for organic eggs....

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I’d wager pretty much anything that the bun in that fast food burger is way worse for you than the beef.

Pay the don't.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992%E2%80%931993_Jack_in_the_Box_E._coli_outbreak

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Who ‘members when Trump “didn’t know anything about Project 2025?” I ‘member.



pro-tip. If you're a Republican, and you're the President, all of the agencies are Republican Agencies.