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WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?

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Republicans stole patriotism and the narrative in the 80s and we've been trying to get it back ever since.
Wanting America to be better is not America-hating, it’s patriotism.

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Yes, making college more affordable and worthwhile by returning to its roots are not Democratic takes ....

What roots are those? The 1800's? Or the 1960's where kids got shot up at Kent State?

Colleges - modulo tuition costs - are 97% the same as they ever were. The 3% that is different is that they've cracked down on the ability of young kids to throw big ass fraternity parties.

The only way to make college more affordable is to increase the percentage of costs that are covered by tax dollars to levels that were prevalent when we attended. All these things you hand wring about are rounding errors.

Some costs have gone up because for many colleges inside a University, they have to do some serious refurbishing of their physical plants, and they need money for that. It's pretty wild walking around UofI. The English building is frozen in time in 1986, basically the same building just a bit more rough around the edges. Meanwhile the EE department moved out of Everett Lab, which was more functional and newer than the English building, and into a brand new building that is a freaky amazing LEED certified palace, with a state of the art cleanroom, etc... because there is outside funding. No 1986 grad from the English department is donating 50 million to do an overhaul. Funny thing is we'll probably need more English majors and all the EE will be done by AI

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"Return college to its roots." I keep telling you guys he's a conservative.
Wanting America to be better is not America-hating, it’s patriotism.

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Pretty much agree, but Dems have to start not making themselves easy targets for Republican attack dogs (and most of them are these days).

It's a fucking magic trick. Mike Johnson was on Meet the Press this week, they were getting on him about cutting medicaid. He says "I think it's reasonable to have a work requirement for young able bodied men, instead of them freeloading off the system when they can work. We need to get rid of the waste fraud and abuse"

When I was a young able bodied man, I pretty much only went to the doctor if I broke a bone. Mike Johnson seems to believe that these young guys who can't get off their asses and get to a job are seeing their GP for an annual physical, and demanding a battery of unnecessary colonoscopies just for funsies. It's not like they are getting checks from Medicaid and talking it to the liquor store.


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Try arguing without lying, you won’t sound so cocksure of yourself, but at least you’ll be honest.

Well, I must have missed your constant reminders about kids dying in Syria, Ukraine, Myanmar, Sudan, Ethiopia, the Congo, and Somalia. Oh, that's right, no I didn't because you are too fixated on vagina shooting assholes for some reason. Hmmmm, what could that reason be? Hmmmm.
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Queue Thor “Ehhhh, is it really though?” meme.

Disowning the list you posted and relied on now, I see.
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"Return college to its roots." I keep telling you guys he's a conservative.

Yes, free speech and allowing for the marketplace of ideas and the freedom to exchange ideas, good and stupid, to proliferate on campuses is now solely a conservative thing. JFC, you are a commie.
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https://www.abi.org/newsroom/press-releases/may-commercial-chapter-11-filings-increase-62-percent-over-last-month

“The sharp uptick in overall commercial chapter 11 filings in May 2025 underscores the ongoing economic pressures businesses face, from elevated borrower costs, potential tariff impacts and geopolitical uncertainty,” said Michael Hunter, vice president of Epiq AACER. “Meanwhile, consumer filings continue to climb yet remain below pre-pandemic levels; however, the resumption of student loan collections and the expiration of the FHA modification programs are likely to drive further increases in filings, particularly through the end of 2025 and into 2026.”

Fucking Biden ...
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The resumption of student loan collections will likely result in Chapter 11 filings ?
smh

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The resumption of student loan collections will likely result in Chapter 11 filings ?
smh

Consumer filings under Chapters 7 and 13 is what he means.
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Consumer filings under Chapters 7 and 13 is what he means.
He's still saying that we'll likely see an increase in the number of people who went to college on loans to get smart filing for bankruptcy.

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He's still saying that we'll likely see an increase in the number of people who went to college on loans to get smart filing for bankruptcy.

The loans themselves are not dischargeable. Their consumer debt will be. The point, I think, is that once they start having to pay back the loans they won't be able to pay for their house, credit cards, whatever.  But college isn't too expensive per Tempo.....
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He's still saying that we'll likely see an increase in the number of people who went to college on loans to get smart filing for bankruptcy.

Investing in getting a college education, not being able to make good on the debt and declaring bankruptcy - bad
Building a dumb ass gaudy casino in Atlantic City and not being able to fulfil on your loans and declaring bankruptcy - good

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Wanting America to be better is not America-hating, it’s patriotism.