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WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?

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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #4950 on: May 29, 2025, 07:32:27 AM »
When a clown moves into a palace, he doesn't become a King. The palace becomes a circus!
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #4951 on: May 29, 2025, 07:51:15 AM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on May 29, 2025, 06:01:28 AM
It appears as tho there are only 2 Presidents who have pardoned immediate family members, President Biden and President Auto-pen.

Aren't they the same guy?
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #4952 on: May 29, 2025, 07:52:11 AM »
Quote from: Custard on May 28, 2025, 11:59:39 PM
Your silence during the Obama and Biden tenures betrays your bias.

Deflection!
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #4953 on: May 29, 2025, 08:00:58 AM »
Sounds like Murph will be at the next Trump million dollar dinner with his boss and the Gangster Disciples.
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #4954 on: May 29, 2025, 08:09:23 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on May 29, 2025, 07:51:15 AM
Aren't they the same guy?
That would be questionable as to whether or not President Teleprompter and Presiden-Auto-pen are one in the same.
Or are you referring to a son, 2 brothers and a sister as being the same guy ?
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #4955 on: May 29, 2025, 10:29:08 AM »
https://www.notus.org/health-science/make-america-healthy-again-report-citation-errors

Why cite reports at all when you just "know" stuff?...That's the real MAGA way.
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #4956 on: May 29, 2025, 11:26:02 AM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on May 29, 2025, 06:01:28 AM
It appears as tho there are only 2 Presidents who have pardoned immediate family members, President Biden and President Auto-pen.

47 pardoned his son-in-law's father, and then nominated him to be Ambassador to France.

Kushner hired a prostitute to seduce his brother-in-law, arranging to record a sexual encounter between the two and send the tape to his sister.

On December 23, 2020, President Trump issued a full and unconditional pardon to Kushner, his daughter's father-in-law,[29] citing his record of "reform" and "charity"

On November 30, 2024, president-elect Trump announced through a social media post that he would nominate Kushner to be the United States ambassador to France in his second term.[44] On February 12, 2025, his nomination was sent to the Senate.[45] His nomination was confirmed by the Senate by a vote of 51-45.
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #4957 on: May 29, 2025, 11:29:40 AM »
Quote from: illiniray on May 29, 2025, 01:43:01 AM
That's really not a good argument. Abortion and marriage aren't like things. Abortion is undesirable, a necessary evil, something that should be safe and rare.

I think most people oppose abortion, but respect the right of women to choose. They also recognize medical reasons for abortion.

You're being mealy mouthed here. "Oppose abortion" - active tense.
"Respect the right of women to choose" - passive form.

People *support* the right of women to choose. Not "respect". Abortion rights have a stronger majority support than gay marriage did when the Obergfell ruling came. Also note - despite your claims that society has moved on gay marriage, if Obergfell landed in the Supreme Court today, Obergfell would lose. The GOP hasn't quite decided to find a plaintiff to go after it, but I'm sure it's in the agenda.
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #4958 on: May 29, 2025, 11:32:00 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on May 29, 2025, 08:00:58 AM
Sounds like Murph will be at the next Trump million dollar dinner with his boss and the Gangster Disciples.

My boss is the gangster.



tickling trump - removing the export restrictions would be 100 billion in revenues, 10 billion in taxes, thousands of jobs... "and reduce our trade deficit".
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #4959 on: May 29, 2025, 03:03:32 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on May 29, 2025, 11:29:40 AM
You're being mealy mouthed here. "Oppose abortion" - active tense.
"Respect the right of women to choose" - passive form.

People *support* the right of women to choose. Not "respect". Abortion rights have a stronger majority support than gay marriage did when the Obergfell ruling came. Also note - despite your claims that society has moved on gay marriage, if Obergfell landed in the Supreme Court today, Obergfell would lose. The GOP hasn't quite decided to find a plaintiff to go after it, but I'm sure it's in the agenda.

Is mealy-mouthed another word for nuanced?

More than 60% think abortion should be a legal option. How many would actually choose that option?

My point was the radical grass roots cultural change that occurred during the 1960s. That is undeniable. The times they were a changin'
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #4960 on: May 29, 2025, 05:00:13 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on May 29, 2025, 03:03:32 PM
Is mealy-mouthed another word for nuanced?

More than 60% think abortion should be a legal option. How many would actually choose that option?

My point was the radical grass roots cultural change that occurred during the 1960s. That is undeniable. The times they were a changin'

The point I am making is that the public viewpoint on a subject is irrelevant if it differs from the 6 conservative supreme court justices. And that difference is becoming more pronounced. Trump wins "because eggs" or "because her emails" and then boom he puts nutters on the Supreme Court in return for favors and they gut the rights that the populace writ large prefers.
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #4961 on: May 29, 2025, 05:02:32 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on May 29, 2025, 05:00:13 PM
The point I am making is that the public viewpoint on a subject is irrelevant if it differs from the 6 conservative supreme court justices. And that difference is becoming more pronounced. Trump wins "because eggs" or "because her emails" and then boom he puts nutters on the Supreme Court in return for favors and they gut the rights that the populace writ large prefers.

I mean, DeSantis goes prancing around that Florida defeated an initiative for recreational marijuana - 55% of voters voted YES - but the law says they need 60% so sorry, and we control the legislature and governors office and we're worried that you might get to 60%, so we're gonna change the law to make it harder for you to pass it.
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #4962 on: May 29, 2025, 09:40:59 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on May 28, 2025, 10:22:12 PM
The tariffs have been ruled unconstitutional.
That didn't last long.
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« Reply #4963 on: May 29, 2025, 09:53:45 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on May 29, 2025, 05:00:13 PM
The point I am making is that the public viewpoint on a subject is irrelevant if it differs from the 6 conservative supreme court justices.

The public viewpoint is not irrelevant. Support of the majority for an issue is important. It's just not enough. Democrats have to win the political games. Republicans have committed, vocal minorities.

https://disa.com/marijuana-legality-by-state

https://reproductiverights.org/maps/abortion-laws-by-state/
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Re: WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?
« Reply #4964 on: May 30, 2025, 12:12:24 AM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on May 29, 2025, 09:40:59 PM
That didn't last long.

It will be interesting to see if Clarence Thomas rules against free trade.
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