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WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?

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*China has about 500 million households and a gdp of about 18 trillion.

*Germany has about 42 million households and a gdp of 4.9 trillion.

*Mexico has about 36 million households and a 2 trillion gdp.

 All USD

The US has about 132 million households and gdp of 29.7 trillion.
 
We should probably consider those numbers when Trump bellyaches about trade deficits.
« Last Edit: April 12, 2025, 08:45:06 PM by illiniray »
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https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/12/trump-exempts-phones-computers-chips-tariffs-apple-dell.html

Caving like a cheap lawn chair, engaging in corruption, or both?  MAGA people mistake this for leadership.

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https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/12/trump-exempts-phones-computers-chips-tariffs-apple-dell.html

Caving like a cheap lawn chair, engaging in corruption, or both?  MAGA people mistake this for leadership.

He caved because his donors bitched. And so much for an army of millions of Americans screwing in little screws

Expensive phones don’t mean shit to the middle class who upgrades only when they really really need to.

But if those upgrades get pushed out and apple has to chew some of the tariffs to sell phones, their revenue and margins get squeezed and that’s bad for big shareholders

He didn’t remove the tariffs for all the shit the middle class buys at Walmart

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I am guessing Tim Cook and others had to buy a lot of Trump bitcoin under the table to get this exemption.

Markets won’t like this hodgepodge policy. 

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https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/12/trump-exempts-phones-computers-chips-tariffs-apple-dell.html

Caving like a cheap lawn chair, engaging in corruption, or both?  MAGA people mistake this for leadership.

Bitch about the tariffs, bitch about the exemptions. Maybe we ought to see how it all plays out instead of overreacting to every single move that gets made.
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Bitch about the tariffs, bitch about the exemptions. Maybe we ought to see how it all plays out instead of overreacting to every single move that gets made.

The constant shifting, changing, exempting, massaging, and on-again-off-againing makes one thing abundantly clear: Trump and his minions have no freaking idea what they are doing, and should not be allowed to cook lunch, let alone direct the U.S. (and by extension global) economy.

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Bitch about the tariffs, bitch about the exemptions. Maybe we ought to see how it all plays out instead of overreacting to every single move that gets made.

Lol. Nobody reacts to every move. Trump is dismantling the government too fast. It's impossible to keep up. 

As of April 9, 2025, President Donald Trump (R) had signed 123 executive orders, 33 proclamations, and 31 memoranda in his second presidential term, which began on January 20, 2025.
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It looks like the Trump Administration has finally admitted they wrongly deported Kilmar Abrego García and know exactly where he is.
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Lowlights:

"White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt alleged that Abrego Garcia was a leader within MS-13 and had been involved in human trafficking. She stated that she had proof from the Department of Homeland Security. Vice President JD Vance publicly backed the deportation, falsely stating that Abrego Garcia was "convicted" of being a member of MS-13. United States Attorney General Pam Bondi said in an interview on Fox News Sunday regarding the claim that Abrego Garcia was not a gang member: "We have to rely on what ICE says. We have to rely on what Homeland Security says."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deportation_of_Kilmar_Abrego_Garcia
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He wasn't wrongly deported and he's outside of the country. Where he should be.

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He wasn't wrongly deported and he's outside of the country. Where he should be.



"Abrego Garcia is a Salvadoran citizen who has lived in Maryland for almost 15 years. While he initially entered the U.S. without being granted legal status, a federal judge in 2019 granted him protection from being deported, due concerns for his safety if he were to return to El Salvador. He also has had no criminal record."
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"Abrego Garcia is a Salvadoran citizen who has lived in Maryland for almost 15 years. While he initially entered the U.S. without being granted legal status, a federal judge in 2019 granted him protection from being deported, due concerns for his safety if he were to return to El Salvador. He also has had no criminal record."
So. What does this have to do with whether or not he was "wrongly deported ?"

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So. What does this have to do with whether or not he was "wrongly deported ?"

Going to guess the part where the federal judge said he met the provisions of our immigration laws so as not to be subject to deportation?
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He had removal orders. In 2019 an Immigration Judge ruled, due to gang activity in El Salvador, that he could not be deported to his home country.
The President of El Salvador has crushed the gangs in El Salvador since, so the Immigration Judge's determination regarding deportation to El Salvador may no longer be applicable. That issue hasn't been argued. Yet.

From SCOTUS .....
"The order properly requires the Government to “facilitate”
Abrego Garcia’s release from custody in El Salvador and to
ensure that his case is handled as it would have been had
he not been improperly sent to El Salvador
. The intended
scope of the term “effectuate” in the District Court’s order
is, however, unclear, and may exceed the District Court’s
authority. The District Court should clarify its directive,
with due regard for the deference owed to the Executive
Branch in the conduct of foreign affairs. For its part, the
Government should be prepared to share what it can
concerning the steps it has taken and the prospect of further steps"

The "administrative error" was deporting him to his home country that no longer has the gang problem that it had when Abrego Garcia was denied asylum.
He had removal orders and the SCOTUS opinion is to facilitate his release and to send him somewhere other than El Salvador.

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He was wrongly identified as a gang member, yanked off the street in front of his son, and flown to a prison in El Salvador.
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