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WTF happened to the WTF happened to the WTF happened with Trump today thread?

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illiniray

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Mn got vaccinated AND had the gumption to ask the hard questions about where it came from, unlike the Pfizer ad bots. You guys act like Biden’s press people haven’t been plenty embarrassing. They just aren’t playing the lowlights reels nonstop in your feed.

Bullspit

I have plenty of friends that think Fox News is too liberal and betrayed Trump. They feed me every little Biden Admin mistake. I haven't heard those Trump era goofs for years. I am dredging them up.
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Mn got vaccinated AND had the gumption to ask the hard questions about where it came from, unlike the Pfizer ad bots. You guys act like Biden’s press people haven’t been plenty embarrassing. They just aren’t playing the lowlights reels nonstop in your feed.

The problem is that these "hard questions" - the majority of which fall into the tinfoil hat category, along with Ivermectin, Hydroxychloroquine, Myocarditis (which even if a thing is orders of magnitude lower risk than COVID) etc... resulted in lower vaccine uptake.

The biggest problem with lack of vaccinations and rejection of basic spread mitigation efforts - forget masks and distancing, there are plenty of people who ignored "just a cold" and would go to work or events while infected - resulted in emergency rooms that struggled to deal with the sorts of emergencies we see daily. 2,383,000 people were injured in motor vehicle crashes in the United States in 2022, including disabling and non-disabling injuries. This was in addition to the 42,514 people who died in motor vehicle crashes that year. When that happens, you want a functioning ER.

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Bullspit

I have plenty of friends that think Fox News is too liberal and betrayed Trump. They feed me every little Biden Admin mistake. I haven't heard those Trump era goofs for years. I am dredging them up.

I was firmly in the "At least Biden ain't Trump, that's my only reason for supporting him" camp the second Bernie was out of the Primary, for reasons I felt were quite obvious.

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The problem is that these "hard questions" - the majority of which fall into the tinfoil hat category, along with Ivermectin, Hydroxychloroquine, Myocarditis (which even if a thing is orders of magnitude lower risk than COVID) etc... resulted in lower vaccine uptake.

The biggest problem with lack of vaccinations and rejection of basic spread mitigation efforts - forget masks and distancing, there are plenty of people who ignored "just a cold" and would go to work or events while infected - resulted in emergency rooms that struggled to deal with the sorts of emergencies we see daily. 2,383,000 people were injured in motor vehicle crashes in the United States in 2022, including disabling and non-disabling injuries. This was in addition to the 42,514 people who died in motor vehicle crashes that year. When that happens, you want a functioning ER.

Mn did what he was told but has continued to search for answers others have given up on. That’s a far cry from going into work sick or encouraging reckless behavior. Let’s be honest, some percentage of people are going to engage in those behaviors regardless, and it’s impossible to know what exact effect displays of skepticism on social media had on vaccine uptake and pandemic severity.

The biggest problem with vaccine uptake wasn’t really the skeptical comments on social media or simply reckless people, but the fact that by the time the vaccine was even available we pretty much knew who was truly at risk. Those that didn’t fall into that bucket were not overly concerned about the virus but may have had concerns about taking a rushed experimental vaccine that had really only completed manufacturer testing. Then the poor stats on vaccinated transmission came out and further fanned those flames.

This is probably hard to wrap your head around if you spent the pandemic in an existential meltdown hiding from the virus, but it’s pretty accurate for us folks out here in the real world. If this pandemic had been more of an equal opportunity killer like smallpox or polio or whatever, there would have been much less hesitance and resistance to vaccination.
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The 3 Wildest Things Trump Said at Train-Wreck Florida Rally
Donald Trump is totally losing it—and his rally at Doral made that more clear than ever before.
https://newrepublic.com/post/183643/trump-trainwreck-florida-rally
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Mn got vaccinated AND had the gumption to ask the hard questions about where it came from, unlike the Pfizer ad bots. You guys act like Biden’s press people haven’t been plenty embarrassing. They just aren’t playing the lowlights reels nonstop in your feed.
Thank you. I did get vaxxed.

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"Don't walk under windmills, it's a sad, sad sight."



But, Biden mixed up names ...
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The 3 Wildest Things Trump Said at Train-Wreck Florida Rally
Donald Trump is totally losing it—and his rally at Doral made that more clear than ever before.
https://newrepublic.com/post/183643/trump-trainwreck-florida-rally

Dude we know this.

Why are you advocating for the "tallest midget" when you can have Margot Robbie

(do the air quotes mean I'm not violating my woke agenda?)

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Dude we know this.

Why are you advocating for the "tallest midget" when you can have Margot Robbie

(do the air quotes mean I'm not violating my woke agenda?)

The seven stages of grief are:

-Shock and denial
-Pain and guilt
-Anger and bargaining
-Depression
-The upward turn
-Reconstruction and working through
-Acceptance and hope


I think Ray is still in Stage 1, but I would accept a well reasoned argument that he’s in Stage 3.
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The rationales from Trump apologists are hilarious.

I did not vote for Hillary or Trump in Trump in 2016.

I voted for Biden in 2020 because he wasn't Trump.

I guess I sort of understand that Trump.is being held to an incredibly low bar.

I hope Biden steps aside, and think he likely will, but his mixing up names will not convince me to vote for Trump.

I don't understand the thought processes of Trump apologists and enablers.Why aren't Republicans calling for him to step aside? Why do I they hate America?
« Last Edit: July 11, 2024, 10:23:47 PM by illiniray »
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The rationales from Trump apologists are hilarious.

I did not vote for Hillary or Trump in Trump in 2016.

I voted for Biden in 2020 because he wasn't Trump.

I guess I sort of understand that Trump.is being held to an incredibly low bar.

I hope Biden steps aside, and think he likely will, but his mixing up names will not convince me to vote for Trump.

I don't understand the thought processes of Trump apologists and enablers.Why aren't Republicans calling for him to step aside? Why do I they hate America?

I get what you're saying, but you're wasting your time.

If one wants Trump to lose the election, it will be a lot easier to get rid of Biden and get people on board with something they like, than to convince 70 million plus cult members they are wrong and 10 million people so depressed about electing a senile guy to the Presidency that they need to stand in line for 6 hours and vote for said senile guy, I mean Trump was President for 4 years and the sun still came up most days. How bad could it be? Worse than 6 hours in line with my sick kid and the GOP not allowing someone to bring me a bottle of water?

Whataboutism on Trump is meaningless. To win the election, there is only one path. Evict Biden.

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It’s becoming more and more evident that you’re really dug in on what the people’s vote should be rather than the big picture of this situation.

No, no one expects you to go vote for Trump because Joe ain’t with it. Your aversion to Trump is well documented. You’ve made it clear you don’t understand why anyone would vote for him. I agree, it doesn’t make much sense on its surface in a binary Joe v Donald race. But lots of not so educated or intelligent people will, given no other choice, vote for the guy who can at least complete a sentence or two.

It’s only when you fully acknowledge that this whole situation is an absolute embarrassment to clown shows and then open it up to other possibilities that you can see a path forward where neither one of these lame duck candidates wins the White House.

It’s time to quit wasting energy mocking Trump and his base, and get behind someone that can actually beat him.
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It’s becoming more and more evident that you’re really dug in on what the people’s vote should be rather than the big picture of this situation.

No, no one expects you to go vote for Trump because Joe ain’t with it. Your aversion to Trump is well documented. You’ve made it clear you don’t understand why anyone would vote for him. I agree, it doesn’t make much sense on its surface in a binary Joe v Donald race.

It’s only when you fully acknowledge that this whole situation is an absolute embarrassment to clown shows and then open it up to other possibilities that you can see a path forward where neither one of these lame duck candidates wins the White House.

Yup.

The only way to end this whole "Divided nation!" bullshit is to elect a kickass President.

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I mean Trump was President for 4 years and the sun still came up most days. How bad could it be?

Worse. January 6 was a clue.

I talk to those people. They say things like no establishment and free exercise of religion refers to Christianity. We are free to practice any form of Christianity.

Or that the United States is a Republic, not a democracy; based on the rule of law, not majority rule.

Even if Trump loses; the Christian Nationalists aren't going away. They need to be defeated in a war of words.
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Worse. January 6 was a clue.

I talk to those people. They say things like no establishment and free exercise of religion refers to Christianity. We are free to practice any form of Christianity.

Or that the United States is a Republic, not a democracy; based on the rule of law, not majority rule.

Even if Trump loses; the Christian Nationalists aren't going away. They need to be defeated in a war of words.

So, there is an attack on Christianity from you guys on the left?
Because FOX News told me so…

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