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Re: Matt Nagy
« Reply #90 on: August 26, 2021, 11:54:46 AM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on August 26, 2021, 11:05:12 AM
put it on imgur or something and do an image link

Sounds like extra work, but I’ll look at it next time.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Matt Nagy
« Reply #91 on: August 26, 2021, 12:38:48 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on August 26, 2021, 09:51:56 AM
What is the point of having the option  to post photos if absolutely everything is “too large?”
It's an intelligence test.
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Re: Matt Nagy
« Reply #92 on: August 26, 2021, 01:08:18 PM »
Quote from: fucking on August 26, 2021, 12:38:48 PM
It's an intelligence test.

Because knowing how to downsize a photo on your phone is the key to humanity, amirite?
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Matt Nagy
« Reply #93 on: August 26, 2021, 04:06:07 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on August 25, 2021, 10:32:59 PM
I’m just saying that out of all the arguments Spark has ever made, continuously invoking Belichick’s name in Matt Nagy discussions is one of the worst. He’s smarter than that.

One thing I'll give you:  I brought him up giving you more credit than you deserved.  My mistake, I suppose.

You still haven't even attempted to address the actual point I was making.
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Re: Matt Nagy
« Reply #94 on: August 26, 2021, 04:10:23 PM »
Quote from: Jobu on August 25, 2021, 09:52:58 PM
Maybe he is. See, I pretty much don’t care. I’m not trying to win an argument. I think Nagy sucks. I think the Bears suck. I said I think they’ll win 5 games.

Spark has a higher opinion of Nagy than most. Fine. He also said he thinks he won’t survive this year. Whatever. Who gives a shit. The sun rises in the east, sets in the west, the Bears fucking suck and we all pay taxes.

I don’t think it’s worth dissecting the whole Nagy Belichick crap anymore. If you and Spark want to continue that, fine. But it’s obvious you’re “playing your role” by zeroing in on one fucking thing and going on and on about it.

I got pussy tonight. 2 nights in a row. The Bears can eat shit and die as far as I’m concerned.

I don't even have a particularly high opinion of Nagy.  I give credit to NFL coaches for wins.  I don't look at a dude with a good record and say "yeah but, he had a great defense!" because that's silly and a slippery slope; it would be dumb and chaotic to apply that standard to everyone, as evidenced by the Belichick discussion.  Nobody's out here saying "yeah but, he fell ass backwards into the best QB ever!" even though that's, to some degree, true.  No one says "Phil Jackson's got a great record but he never coached a team without one, often two, of the top-15 or so players ever on it" even though again, that's true.

If Nagy loses games, he SHOULD BE canned - even if I thought he was the best coach ever saddled by an ineffective roster (NOTE:  TEMPO, I DON'T THINK THIS).  If he wins games, he shouldn't be canned.

I also, admittedly, find something funny about the dual opinions "Ryan Pace sucks for drafting a huge bust like Trubisky" and also "Matt Nagy sucks because he didn't make it past the first round with a dude I think sucks at the most important position, because he had an elite defense that Pace constructed".

If Justin Fields can play, he will tell us a lot about where the issue really was IMO.
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Re: Matt Nagy
« Reply #95 on: August 26, 2021, 05:06:25 PM »
You forgot that Ryan Pace also sucks for trading up to get Trubinsky.
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Re: Matt Nagy
« Reply #96 on: August 26, 2021, 07:31:20 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on August 26, 2021, 04:10:23 PM
I don't even have a particularly high opinion of Nagy.  I give credit to NFL coaches for wins.  I don't look at a dude with a good record and say "yeah but, he had a great defense!" because that's silly and a slippery slope; it would be dumb and chaotic to apply that standard to everyone, as evidenced by the Belichick discussion.  Nobody's out here saying "yeah but, he fell ass backwards into the best QB ever!" even though that's, to some degree, true.  No one says "Phil Jackson's got a great record but he never coached a team without one, often two, of the top-15 or so players ever on it" even though again, that's true.

If Nagy loses games, he SHOULD BE canned - even if I thought he was the best coach ever saddled by an ineffective roster (NOTE:  TEMPO, I DON'T THINK THIS).  If he wins games, he shouldn't be canned.

I also, admittedly, find something funny about the dual opinions "Ryan Pace sucks for drafting a huge bust like Trubisky" and also "Matt Nagy sucks because he didn't make it past the first round with a dude I think sucks at the most important position, because he had an elite defense that Pace constructed".

If Justin Fields can play, he will tell us a lot about where the issue really was IMO.

What you seem to forget is that Nagy has had one really good year as a HC. His rookie year. Your point would carry a fuckton more water if he was a winning coach over 10 years. “But he was the HC” is about the most simplistic analysis I’ve ever seen. Over a short period of time; a lot of mediocre coaches could be successful if the cards fall in their favor.

And we’ve yet to see a competent offense from the offensive genius in 3+ years of being here.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Matt Nagy
« Reply #97 on: August 26, 2021, 07:39:05 PM »
Again, using Belichick as an example is absolutely moronic because he’s been winning for 20 years and made 9 Super Bowls. Yes, he was lucky to have Tom Brady. He also was smart enough to draft him. And as valuable as Tom Brady is, he has to have help; and Belichick successfully turned that roster core over about 4x in the past 20 years. Trying to compare Nagy and Belichick in any way whatsoever is a fucking joke (even just as an analogy). Pick a better argument.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #98 on: August 26, 2021, 07:42:53 PM »
The main reason Matt Nagy sucks is because he can’t tailor his offense to his personnel, and he can’t call an effective game; and he shrinks under pressure. If you give him a generational defense, he’s ok.

Nagy’s ego is also a liability.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Matt Nagy
« Reply #99 on: August 31, 2021, 10:15:55 AM »
Tweet from Bear beat reporter Jacob Infante:

It’s okay for a team to admit their rookie QB is better than their veteran. The Patriots weren’t afraid and cut Cam Newton. The #Bears are still starting Andy Dalton.

Generally, if you’re doing something the exact opposite of Bill Belichick, you’re probably doing it wrong.
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Re: Matt Nagy
« Reply #100 on: August 31, 2021, 10:28:14 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on August 31, 2021, 10:15:55 AM
Tweet from Bear beat reporter Jacob Infante:

It’s okay for a team to admit their rookie QB is better than their veteran. The Patriots weren’t afraid and cut Cam Newton. The #Bears are still starting Andy Dalton.

Generally, if you’re doing something the exact opposite of Bill Belichick, you’re probably doing it wrong.

I’ll second this.
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Re: Matt Nagy
« Reply #101 on: August 31, 2021, 10:45:24 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on August 31, 2021, 10:15:55 AM
Tweet from Bear beat reporter Jacob Infante:

It’s okay for a team to admit their rookie QB is better than their veteran. The Patriots weren’t afraid and cut Cam Newton. The #Bears are still starting Andy Dalton.

Generally, if you’re doing something the exact opposite of Bill Belichick, you’re probably doing it wrong.

Why are you comparing Belichick and Matt Nagy???
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Re: Matt Nagy
« Reply #102 on: August 31, 2021, 10:49:35 AM »
The Bears are a shitty organization, why you think all of a sudden they would be acting like a big boy franchise and start doing things to actually win football games is a fools errand.
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Re: Matt Nagy
« Reply #103 on: August 31, 2021, 03:48:20 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on August 31, 2021, 10:45:24 AM
Why are you comparing Belichick and Matt Nagy???

Glad this didn't fall to me.  :)
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Re: Matt Nagy
« Reply #104 on: August 31, 2021, 04:40:37 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on August 31, 2021, 10:45:24 AM
Why are you comparing Belichick and Matt Nagy???

Contrasting is different from comparing.
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