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Re: Rambling
« Reply #285 on: March 21, 2021, 03:17:01 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on March 21, 2021, 03:13:25 PM
You’re delusional. Not sure how that relates to a great X’s and O’s Coach.

Well “coaching up” generally indicates a good understanding of the intricacies of the game. If he wasn’t the guy who gave us an advantage fundamentally and Xs and Os wise, what was all the excitement about? You’re delusional if you don’t think Underwood wasn’t pimped as a “coaching” advantage.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Rambling
« Reply #286 on: March 21, 2021, 03:18:28 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on March 21, 2021, 03:16:25 PM
Here we go with the strawman arguments and moving the goalposts because you were wrong and made some outlandish false claim.

Beware of the the next 20 pages from Tempo other posters....

Again, maybe try to answer the question. If he wasn’t billed as a major step up in “coaching” What was his appeal?

His record as a recruiter in ONE YEAR at a major program???
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Rambling
« Reply #287 on: March 21, 2021, 03:18:54 PM »
So is Krutwig grad transferring to us next year because I'm very much down with that addition.
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Re: Rambling
« Reply #288 on: March 21, 2021, 03:24:23 PM »
That was the most piss poor effort I’ve ever seen. At no point in the entire game did anyone look like they gave a shit. Loyola ran the Michigan State game plan on us: be physical with our guards and collapse on Cockburn, and it worked. Ayo goes into a shell when he gets bumped a lot, and Curbelo gets angry and sloppy. If the refs were calling it tighter, it wouldn’t have worked, but we failed to adapt. Just like the MSU game.
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Re: Rambling
« Reply #289 on: March 21, 2021, 03:34:17 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on March 21, 2021, 01:12:31 PM
Right behind Austin Peay

1990 5th seed lost in the 1st round to 12th seed Dayton. That team had Gill, Liberty, Bardo, Ervin Small, Andy Kaufman. If I recall correctly, we rallied from a big deficit, but came up just short. Henson's teams had some close losses in the early rounds.

   
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Re: Rambling
« Reply #290 on: March 21, 2021, 03:51:54 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on March 21, 2021, 03:17:01 PM
Well “coaching up” generally indicates a good understanding of the intricacies of the game. If he wasn’t the guy who gave us an advantage fundamentally and Xs and Os wise, what was all the excitement about? You’re delusional if you don’t think Underwood wasn’t pimped as a “coaching” advantage.

There is also practice coaching. I always thought Henson was a better practice coach than game coach.  So far, player development seems to be a plus.

Don't know the word for it -- program coach(?),  but Underwood has done a good job of building up the roster and creating a winning atmosphere. It took Henson 9 years to reach a similar level.     
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Re: Rambling
« Reply #291 on: March 21, 2021, 04:08:58 PM »
Tempo isn’t wrong here.

Underwood was hailed as a hardass Huggins/Martin guy who ran a dynamic spread offense and hard nosed pressure D. It worked extraordinarily well at SFA.

He was also praised for how he adjusted his scheme to high major basketball at OSU and had them on a tear at the end of his sole season there.

All the question marks were around recruiting. That’s why he went out and hired OA and Chin.

He’s changed his philosophy on both ends of the floor here to fit personnel and competition. He’s done pretty well. Today was a huge disappointment. Got beat by a tough disciplined team. Missed a ton of layups and bunnies. It happens. We knew this team had some serious flaws and each and every one of them were on full display today. There has been *some* continuity in his four years, but this team was playing two freshmen a ton of minutes, and Grandison was in his first year playing at this level.

Yesterday I said that (after today) athletic teams would force Ayo right, double and triple Kofi, and make the other guys beat us. Welp. Frazier 1-10...were Grandison and Williams even at the game? Miller was kind of ok. Curbelo had some solid moments but spent most of the game looking rattled.

I don’t think Brad Underwood all of a sudden sucks as a coach any more today than Chris Holtmann did on Friday. I expect him to learn from this and continue to adjust.

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Re: Rambling
« Reply #292 on: March 21, 2021, 04:11:49 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on March 21, 2021, 01:23:39 PM
Loyola was under seeded I thought.

Definitely

NET ranking: 10
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Re: Rambling
« Reply #293 on: March 21, 2021, 04:15:53 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on March 21, 2021, 03:18:28 PM
Again, maybe try to answer the question. If he wasn’t billed as a major step up in “coaching” What was his appeal?

His record as a recruiter in ONE YEAR at a major program???

What is it you’re trying to prove? Do u want a different coach? Your boy Archie just got fired. Your boy Smart is apparently an “underachiever” as well. So like what is it you want? Your track record isn’t very well documented on coaches....
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Re: Rambling
« Reply #294 on: March 21, 2021, 04:20:08 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on March 21, 2021, 03:18:28 PM
Again, maybe try to answer the question. If he wasn’t billed as a major step up in “coaching” What was his appeal?

His record as a recruiter in ONE YEAR at a major program???

Weren't you the same guy who was pining for Reggie Theus at one point?
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Re: Rambling
« Reply #295 on: March 21, 2021, 04:24:58 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on March 21, 2021, 03:18:28 PM
Again,

People might take you seriously if you started fewer posts this way.

But probably not. You'd still need to follow your introductory phrases with something more descriptive or analytical than your feelings (+/-) your conflicting feelings.
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« Reply #296 on: March 21, 2021, 04:27:23 PM »
Quote from: Custard on March 21, 2021, 04:08:58 PM
Tempo isn’t wrong here.

Underwood was hailed as a hardass Huggins/Martin guy who ran a dynamic spread offense and hard nosed pressure D. It worked extraordinarily well at SFA.

He was also praised for how he adjusted his scheme to high major basketball at OSU and had them on a tear at the end of his sole season there.

All the question marks were around recruiting. That’s why he went out and hired OA and Chin.

He’s changed his philosophy on both ends of the floor here to fit personnel and competition. He’s done pretty well. Today was a huge disappointment. Got beat by a tough disciplined team. Missed a ton of layups and bunnies. It happens. We knew this team had some serious flaws and each and every one of them were on full display today. There has been *some* continuity in his four years, but this team was playing two freshmen a ton of minutes, and Grandison was in his first year playing at this level.

Yesterday I said that (after today) athletic teams would force Ayo right, double and triple Kofi, and make the other guys beat us. Welp. Frazier 1-10...were Grandison and Williams even at the game? Miller was kind of ok. Curbelo had some solid moments but spent most of the game looking rattled.

I don’t think Brad Underwood all of a sudden sucks as a coach any more today than Chris Holtmann did on Friday. I expect him to learn from this and continue to adjust.

I think all of this is reasonable. And I will say that I don’t think this team had quite the experience you’d want for a national title team. Ayo and Trent were experienced players, but really this was the first time under the microscope for this group. I think that showed today.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Rambling
« Reply #297 on: March 21, 2021, 04:28:57 PM »
Caught the wrap up in the clubhouse after the Sunday morning four ball. Glad I missed it !
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Re: Rambling
« Reply #298 on: March 21, 2021, 06:00:13 PM »
Since our game ended, I think I’ve watched about 7 seconds of basketball.
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Re: Rambling
« Reply #299 on: March 21, 2021, 07:27:26 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on March 21, 2021, 06:00:13 PM
Since our game ended, I think I’ve watched about 7 seconds of basketball.

you have me beat by about 7 seconds
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