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WTF did Trump do to the stock market?

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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #225 on: April 06, 2020, 11:23:52 AM »
Friday.
"Mayor Bill de Blasio rejected WNYC host Brian Lehrer’s claim that the U.S. knew “weeks and months ago that asymptomatic people can spread this disease,” and instead suggested this fact was only discovered “in the last 48 hours.”

“The city’s position used to be that healthy people don’t need masks because they’re not very effective at preventing the virus from coming in, they’re mostly from keeping you from spreading it, so explain this new recommendation,” Lehrer said.

“Exactly, it’s still the fundamental truth, so we have, you know, a renowned health department here in New York City… only in the last really 48 hours or so do they feel they’ve seen evidence around the world, particularly a new study coming out of Singapore, that shows more evidence that this disease can be spread by asymptomatic people,” de Blasio responded.
When Lehrer asked, “Didn’t we know weeks and months ago that asymptomatic people can spread this disease?” The mayor insisted we did not.

“No, the fact is I’ve been at so many press conferences where our top doctors for New York City addressed this and they said ‘we just didn’t have evidence from all the global medical community that was studying this issue,” de Blasio told Lehrer. “There was suspicion, but there was not evidence.”

DeBlasio got zero support in the Democratic primary for a reason. That reason is that he's an idiot.

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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #226 on: April 06, 2020, 11:29:13 AM »
If I had to choose between A:snake oil and B:dead, I think I would go with A.

Snake oil - n - a substance with no real medicinal value sold as a remedy for all diseases.

If you are dead without snake oil, you're dead with it, just the same.

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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #227 on: April 07, 2020, 06:49:11 AM »
Friday.
"Mayor Bill de Blasio rejected WNYC host Brian Lehrer’s claim that the U.S. knew “weeks and months ago that asymptomatic people can spread this disease,” and instead suggested this fact was only discovered “in the last 48 hours.”

“The city’s position used to be that healthy people don’t need masks because they’re not very effective at preventing the virus from coming in, they’re mostly from keeping you from spreading it, so explain this new recommendation,” Lehrer said.

“Exactly, it’s still the fundamental truth, so we have, you know, a renowned health department here in New York City… only in the last really 48 hours or so do they feel they’ve seen evidence around the world, particularly a new study coming out of Singapore, that shows more evidence that this disease can be spread by asymptomatic people,” de Blasio responded.
When Lehrer asked, “Didn’t we know weeks and months ago that asymptomatic people can spread this disease?” The mayor insisted we did not.

“No, the fact is I’ve been at so many press conferences where our top doctors for New York City addressed this and they said ‘we just didn’t have evidence from all the global medical community that was studying this issue,” de Blasio told Lehrer. “There was suspicion, but there was not evidence.”

DeBlasio got zero support in the Democratic primary for a reason. That reason is that he's an idiot.

Kemp and DeBlasio: 'the CDC released results within the last 48 hours of a study done in Singapore that is showing that pre-symptomatic people may be contagious up to 48 hours before symptoms show. We didnt know that before, and we should be more aggressive in our mitigation.'
Lehrer and whomever felt they needed to be the first to roast Kemp: 'we don't want to hear about no stinking study.'
Whether or not Kemp and DeBlasio are idiots is a separate matter, and I won't argue that they arent.
Still hiding behind innuendo and practicing the art of ommision.

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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #228 on: April 07, 2020, 02:05:54 PM »
Friday.
"Mayor Bill de Blasio rejected WNYC host Brian Lehrer’s claim that the U.S. knew “weeks and months ago that asymptomatic people can spread this disease,” and instead suggested this fact was only discovered “in the last 48 hours.”

“The city’s position used to be that healthy people don’t need masks because they’re not very effective at preventing the virus from coming in, they’re mostly from keeping you from spreading it, so explain this new recommendation,” Lehrer said.

“Exactly, it’s still the fundamental truth, so we have, you know, a renowned health department here in New York City… only in the last really 48 hours or so do they feel they’ve seen evidence around the world, particularly a new study coming out of Singapore, that shows more evidence that this disease can be spread by asymptomatic people,” de Blasio responded.
When Lehrer asked, “Didn’t we know weeks and months ago that asymptomatic people can spread this disease?” The mayor insisted we did not.

“No, the fact is I’ve been at so many press conferences where our top doctors for New York City addressed this and they said ‘we just didn’t have evidence from all the global medical community that was studying this issue,” de Blasio told Lehrer. “There was suspicion, but there was not evidence.”

DeBlasio got zero support in the Democratic primary for a reason. That reason is that he's an idiot.

Kemp and DeBlasio: 'the CDC released results within the last 48 hours of a study done in Singapore that is showing that pre-symptomatic people may be contagious up to 48 hours before symptoms show. We didnt know that before, and we should be more aggressive in our mitigation.'
Lehrer and whomever felt they needed to be the first to roast Kemp: 'we don't want to hear about no stinking study.'
Whether or not Kemp and DeBlasio are idiots is a separate matter, and I won't argue that they arent.

DeBlasio has been getting roasted pretty heavily. And he's just a Mayor, being overridden by his Governor, who hasn't done the sort of job that Newsom, Inslee, Polis, DeWine have, but he's done a decent job.

Because in the end, NYC is on lockdown and Georgia just re-opened the beaches. If Kemp gets more scorn than DeBlasio, it's for a reason. He's been in the bottom 5% on this issue, across the board.

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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #229 on: April 07, 2020, 02:10:45 PM »
Friday.
"Mayor Bill de Blasio rejected WNYC host Brian Lehrer’s claim that the U.S. knew “weeks and months ago that asymptomatic people can spread this disease,” and instead suggested this fact was only discovered “in the last 48 hours.”

“The city’s position used to be that healthy people don’t need masks because they’re not very effective at preventing the virus from coming in, they’re mostly from keeping you from spreading it, so explain this new recommendation,” Lehrer said.

“Exactly, it’s still the fundamental truth, so we have, you know, a renowned health department here in New York City… only in the last really 48 hours or so do they feel they’ve seen evidence around the world, particularly a new study coming out of Singapore, that shows more evidence that this disease can be spread by asymptomatic people,” de Blasio responded.
When Lehrer asked, “Didn’t we know weeks and months ago that asymptomatic people can spread this disease?” The mayor insisted we did not.

“No, the fact is I’ve been at so many press conferences where our top doctors for New York City addressed this and they said ‘we just didn’t have evidence from all the global medical community that was studying this issue,” de Blasio told Lehrer. “There was suspicion, but there was not evidence.”

DeBlasio got zero support in the Democratic primary for a reason. That reason is that he's an idiot.

Kemp and DeBlasio: 'the CDC released results within the last 48 hours of a study done in Singapore that is showing that pre-symptomatic people may be contagious up to 48 hours before symptoms show. We didnt know that before, and we should be more aggressive in our mitigation.'
Lehrer and whomever felt they needed to be the first to roast Kemp: 'we don't want to hear about no stinking study.'
Whether or not Kemp and DeBlasio are idiots is a separate matter, and I won't argue that they arent.

https://nypost.com/2020/03/20/coronavirus-in-ny-cuomo-orders-lockdown-shuts-down-non-essential-businesses/

March 22 - New York - State - locked down.
April 3 - Georgia "locked down" not including beaches or churches.


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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #230 on: April 08, 2020, 08:21:53 AM »
What person makes it to 40 and beyond with any type of decent education and doesn't learn at some point that viruses can be transmitted asymptomatically? It isn't like this virus installed some version 2.0 update.

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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #231 on: April 15, 2020, 01:14:14 AM »
WTF did Trump do to the stock market?

He cut taxes; which corporations used to buy back their own stock.  He conflated current quarterly GDP growth with annualized Obama era GDP growth; current U-3 unemployment with Obama era U-6 and labor participation. He exaggerated the reshoring of manufacturing jobs. The CAPE ratio was at 32 and rising before the covid-19 mess hit. Plus deficits were off the chart in supposedly a perfect economy, the best economy ever.

Trump's initial response was to call the pandemic a hoax. Now he blames Democrats, China, the state governors, the WHO, etc for his own missteps. We have a leader who apparently likes to take credit and shift blame; who delegates responsibility but not authority. Meanwhile, his big money backers tend to always see big government as the problem and think free markets can fix everything.  I think George W Bush learned his lesson from Katrina. Sadly, some Republicans  think Obama was actually responsible for the Katrina response. It appears others seriously think disaster response is primarily up to the private sector and the respective states or territories. Puerto Rico anyone? So what we got was another sluggish, semi-coherent response with a lot of finger pointing at others. 

Trump Apologists:

"When Trump blocked all travel from China; Biden, Pelosi, and the liberal media called him a racist."
 
"The Democrats held up the covid-19 relief package by trying to add abortion funding and aid to Iran."   
 
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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #232 on: April 15, 2020, 01:53:09 PM »
WTF did Trump do to the stock market?

He cut taxes; which corporations used to buy back their own stock.  He conflated current quarterly GDP growth with annualized Obama era GDP growth; current U-3 unemployment with Obama era U-6 and labor participation. He exaggerated the reshoring of manufacturing jobs. The CAPE ratio was at 32 and rising before the covid-19 mess hit. Plus deficits were off the chart in supposedly a perfect economy, the best economy ever.

Trump's initial response was to call the pandemic a hoax. Now he blames Democrats, China, the state governors, the WHO, etc for his own missteps. We have a leader who apparently likes to take credit and shift blame; who delegates responsibility but not authority. Meanwhile, his big money backers tend to always see big government as the problem and think free markets can fix everything.  I think George W Bush learned his lesson from Katrina. Sadly, some Republicans  think Obama was actually responsible for the Katrina response. It appears others seriously think disaster response is primarily up to the private sector and the respective states or territories. Puerto Rico anyone? So what we got was another sluggish, semi-coherent response with a lot of finger pointing at others. 

Trump Apologists:

"When Trump blocked all travel from China; Biden, Pelosi, and the liberal media called him a racist."
 
"The Democrats held up the covid-19 relief package by trying to add abortion funding and aid to Iran."   

Let's put it this way. There are protestors in Lansing Michigan, protesting the stay at home order and waving their Trump flags

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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #233 on: April 15, 2020, 03:17:31 PM »
WTF did Trump do to the stock market?

He cut taxes; which corporations used to buy back their own stock.  He conflated current quarterly GDP growth with annualized Obama era GDP growth; current U-3 unemployment with Obama era U-6 and labor participation. He exaggerated the reshoring of manufacturing jobs. The CAPE ratio was at 32 and rising before the covid-19 mess hit. Plus deficits were off the chart in supposedly a perfect economy, the best economy ever.

Trump's initial response was to call the pandemic a hoax. Now he blames Democrats, China, the state governors, the WHO, etc for his own missteps. We have a leader who apparently likes to take credit and shift blame; who delegates responsibility but not authority. Meanwhile, his big money backers tend to always see big government as the problem and think free markets can fix everything.  I think George W Bush learned his lesson from Katrina. Sadly, some Republicans  think Obama was actually responsible for the Katrina response. It appears others seriously think disaster response is primarily up to the private sector and the respective states or territories. Puerto Rico anyone? So what we got was another sluggish, semi-coherent response with a lot of finger pointing at others. 

Trump Apologists:

"When Trump blocked all travel from China; Biden, Pelosi, and the liberal media called him a racist."
 
"The Democrats held up the covid-19 relief package by trying to add abortion funding and aid to Iran."   

Let's put it this way. There are protestors in Lansing Fucking scUM, protesting the stay at home order and waving their Trump flags

fidiots. Those are the ones who say "frickin'-a" when Trump claims absolute power, fires a bunch of IGs, puts his name on stimulus checks ...
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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #234 on: April 15, 2020, 03:44:25 PM »

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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #235 on: April 16, 2020, 09:13:37 AM »
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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #236 on: April 16, 2020, 09:14:11 AM »
WTF did Trump do to the stock market?

He cut taxes; which corporations used to buy back their own stock.  He conflated current quarterly GDP growth with annualized Obama era GDP growth; current U-3 unemployment with Obama era U-6 and labor participation. He exaggerated the reshoring of manufacturing jobs. The CAPE ratio was at 32 and rising before the covid-19 mess hit. Plus deficits were off the chart in supposedly a perfect economy, the best economy ever.

Trump's initial response was to call the pandemic a hoax. Now he blames Democrats, China, the state governors, the WHO, etc for his own missteps. We have a leader who apparently likes to take credit and shift blame; who delegates responsibility but not authority. Meanwhile, his big money backers tend to always see big government as the problem and think free markets can fix everything.  I think George W Bush learned his lesson from Katrina. Sadly, some Republicans  think Obama was actually responsible for the Katrina response. It appears others seriously think disaster response is primarily up to the private sector and the respective states or territories. Puerto Rico anyone? So what we got was another sluggish, semi-coherent response with a lot of finger pointing at others. 

Trump Apologists:

"When Trump blocked all travel from China; Biden, Pelosi, and the liberal media called him a racist."
 
"The Democrats held up the covid-19 relief package by trying to add abortion funding and aid to Iran."   

Let's put it this way. There are protestors in Lansing Fucking scUM, protesting the stay at home order and waving their Trump flags

fidiots. Those are the ones who say "frickin'-a" when Trump claims absolute power, fires a bunch of IGs, puts his name on stimulus checks ...

yikes man, you need a few dozen red pills to cure your very bad case of TDS
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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #237 on: April 16, 2020, 09:51:38 AM »
To be fair to the Mich governor, she did clarify that U.S. flags can be purchased in Mich. Tho you can't buy a made in the USA American flag at your local Costco, you can order one of those made in China ones at Amazon.
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Re: WTF did Trump do to the stock market?
« Reply #238 on: April 16, 2020, 10:06:54 AM »
People aren’t going to stay hunkered down forever and most of them are a lot more scared of poverty than they are this virus, and it’s hard to argue with that point of view knowing now that this is a lot less dangerous than we were led to believe.

Meanwhile while everyone is freaking out we’ve got the government handing out taxpayer dollars like candy to Wall Street and big businesses while small businesses are struggling to get access to the funds they were promised.

Then they send out these stimulus checks to average Americans that are *just enough* to keep them from asking too many questions or getting too pushy about the stay at home orders. 

And then as a final kick in the nuts it’s been turned into identity politics where you’ve got the Democrat governors wanting to keep the economy shut down indefinitely unless their broke states (Illinois for example) get a bunch more federal money to bail them out.

I propose a very simple solution to this mess: Go back to work and stay the fuck away from Grandma!



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« Reply #239 on: April 16, 2020, 10:26:45 AM »
I'm guessing there were probably zero protesters in Lansing from out of state. They are free to travel back and forth to their summer cabins in Mich at will. It's just the residents of Mich who can't go to theirs.
And those out of staters can put a canoe in the water when they get to the cabin.
No row boats allowed for anybody tho. There's undoubtedly science somewhere indicating virus transmission does not occur with canoes, just boats.
Still hiding behind innuendo and practicing the art of ommision.