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Re: Underwood
« Reply #1080 on: March 30, 2022, 11:24:42 PM »
Quote from: Custard on March 30, 2022, 10:52:41 PM
Omg we don’t pay enough to keep coaches around! Josh is gonna be Gunther lite!

Omg we overpay our coaches! What the fuck is Gunther lite doing!?!?

A few hundred k is a drop in the bucket these days for any semblance of stability and continuity.

We just had, objectively, our best three year run in 16 years. That run started in Brad’s third year.

Guys, if he sucks going forward the donors will buy him out. If he wins, it’s money well spent. Especially since it’s partially structured to reward better performance.

It’s hard to even wrap my head around all the bitching anymore. Maybe draw a line in the sand. A line which you shall not cross. Do we pay the coaches that bring objective results or not?

miserable people love to complain 🤷‍♀️
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #1081 on: March 30, 2022, 11:52:29 PM »
The issue is not the money.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #1082 on: March 31, 2022, 07:33:54 AM »
I'm curious whether there were crrdible offers for him to leave.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #1083 on: March 31, 2022, 07:51:28 AM »
Quote from: Custard on March 30, 2022, 10:52:41 PM
Omg we don’t pay enough to keep coaches around! Josh is gonna be Gunther lite!

Omg we overpay our coaches! What the fuck is Gunther lite doing!?!?

A few hundred k is a drop in the bucket these days for any semblance of stability and continuity.

We just had, objectively, our best three year run in 16 years. That run started in Brad’s third year.

Guys, if he sucks going forward the donors will buy him out. If he wins, it’s money well spent. Especially since it’s partially structured to reward better performance.

It’s hard to even wrap my head around all the bitching anymore. Maybe draw a line in the sand. A line which you shall not cross. Do we pay the coaches that bring objective results or not?

Bitches gonna bitch.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #1084 on: March 31, 2022, 08:00:30 AM »
Quote from: illinicalvin on March 30, 2022, 01:46:35 PM
Looks like it tacks a year on to the extension he just got, which is dumb, but lighting money on fire is the whole point of an athletic department.

There’s no point in extending Underwood until he shows he can win without Kofi.

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Re: Underwood
« Reply #1085 on: March 31, 2022, 08:02:56 AM »
Quote from: Custard on March 30, 2022, 10:52:41 PM


Guys, if he sucks going forward the donors will buy him out.

Are you kidding me?  We just sat thru 5 years of John Groce and Lovie Smith because nobody would pay the buyout to get rid of them
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #1086 on: March 31, 2022, 08:46:17 AM »
Yeah no
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #1087 on: March 31, 2022, 05:18:22 PM »
Quote from: Custard on March 31, 2022, 08:46:17 AM
Yeah no

The Lovie buyout was the reason he wasn’t fired after the Iowa 63-0 game in 2018
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #1088 on: March 31, 2022, 05:21:45 PM »
Quote from: Dominic on March 31, 2022, 05:18:22 PM
The Lovie buyout was the reason he wasn’t fired after the Iowa 63-0 game in 2018

What you just said is called speculation. It’s not a fact. You have no way to know that at all. Just blatantly making shit up.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #1089 on: March 31, 2022, 09:55:49 PM »
Meh after the Becktard scandal he was going to have a pretty long leash. He got hired at a weird time after Cubit and Lil Cubit X threw together a shitty recruiting class and a ton of existing players GTFO.

Everyone knew it was going to be a rough turnaround. Even with the 63-0 drubbing by Iowa, most saw the program progressing toward bowl contention in 2019. Firing him in 2018 would have been a short leash and wouldn’t have been received well by the coaching fraternity.

He did make a bowl in 2019 and entirely mailed it in from the time they got the sixth win. He got a quick hook after 2020.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #1090 on: April 01, 2022, 08:17:26 AM »
It’s not that Underwood didn’t deserve an extension (he’d already gotten one recently). He’s getting a $500k raise and extension when he he’s underachieved two years running (where it matters most), and he’s not likely to jump ship to go anywhere else. And also, according to the report the buyout was increased. And hate to agree with Dominic, but I’d like to see him win without Kofi before giving him extension after extension.

It’s probably fine. Just don’t see the point, other than Guenther Jr finding a way to pay himself on the back. There’s a lot of really attractive coaching candidates out there right now. Don’t want to tie ourselves to a near 60 year old when it’s not really necessary. If things were to go south, I don’t want anyone here a year longer than necessary. We’ve been through this multiple times recently.

I suspect it’s fine. Just irks me to see a guy get an extension two years in a row when the season has ended on sour note in consecutive seasons. If he’d made the Final Four, I would completely get it.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #1091 on: April 01, 2022, 08:21:16 AM »
So apparently that’s two contract extensions in 6 months. So yeah, kind of head scratching. It’s so Illinois. Nickel and diming him up the ladder. I’d be less offended if Guenther had just handed him a huge contract last year. As long as the buyout isn’t stupid.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #1092 on: April 01, 2022, 08:24:32 AM »
I’d rather they just hand him a huge contract and let that show future prospective coaches that we’ll make them rich upfront rather than extend you every year and give you a bump if you’re a good boy.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #1093 on: April 01, 2022, 08:39:25 AM »
JFC
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #1094 on: April 01, 2022, 08:43:20 AM »
Quote from: Custard on April 01, 2022, 08:39:25 AM
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Expected reaction. You must sleep well resting between Whitman’s and Underwood’s nuts.
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