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Re: Underwood
« Reply #1005 on: March 20, 2022, 01:50:56 PM »
I don't understand how the guy who coached rando Texas state school to success in this tournament has come our flat 2 years in a row with 4 star talent.

Best case scenario is Kofi comes back and we get a combo guard on the transfer market. If Kofi is gone next year could be bleak.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #1006 on: March 20, 2022, 01:53:09 PM »
Quote from: illinicalvin on March 20, 2022, 01:50:56 PM
I don't understand how the guy who coached rando Texas state school to success in this tournament has come our flat 2 years in a row with 4 star talent.

Best case scenario is Kofi comes back and we get a combo guard on the transfer market. If Kofi is gone next year could be bleak.

Gimmick D that works until coaches get time to prep for it?
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #1007 on: March 20, 2022, 01:55:30 PM »
Quote from: Mn on March 20, 2022, 01:40:26 PM
We need players like other teams have. Athletic and physical 6'4 guards and 6'6-6'10 wings and front line.
Melendez is a starter.

Exactly. Only what I’ve been saying for 2+ years now. Mr. Positionless Basketball constructed a very traditional roster.

Midget guards and marginal athleticism = early exits against length and athleticism.

It’s not a playing hard or prep issue it’s purely not being able to see over guys to pass or get passes around them. Or shoot over them. Or take anyone to the basket. We’re gonna like Sincere Harris and Ty Rodgers.

The problem is personnel based more so than scheme. Which lies at Underwood’s feet. Sampson rebuilt from losing five starters and had more injuries than us and yet here they are plugging in bouncy athlete after bouncy athlete that can go get buckets when we run them off the three point line.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #1008 on: March 20, 2022, 01:57:10 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on March 20, 2022, 01:47:50 PM
2 All Americans and not one Sweet 16. Unimaginable at Illinois
Luka Garza and Keegan Murray want to remind you that 3 years worth of AAs can come up empty handed too.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #1009 on: March 20, 2022, 01:58:30 PM »
Quote from: Mn on March 20, 2022, 01:57:10 PM
Luka Garza and Keegan Murray want to remind you that 3 years worth of AAs can come up empty handed too.

He’s a drama queen and troll man.
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« Reply #1010 on: March 20, 2022, 02:00:03 PM »
Quote from: Custard on March 20, 2022, 01:55:30 PM
Exactly. Only what I’ve been saying for 2+ years now. Mr. Positionless Basketball constructed a very traditional roster.

Midget guards and marginal athleticism = early exits against length and athleticism.

It’s not a playing hard or prep issue it’s purely not being able to see over guys to pass or get passes around them. Or shoot over them. Or take anyone to the basket. We’re gonna like Sincere Harris and Ty Rodgers.

The problem is personnel based more so than scheme. Which lies at Underwood’s feet. Sampson rebuilt from losing five starters and had more injuries than us and yet here they are plugging in bouncy athlete after bouncy athlete that can go get buckets when we run them off the three point line.

Yeah I think we’ll be a tourney team next year. They’ve got length and size. See who we pick up in portal and if we get that Skyy kid who decommitted from KY, we’ll be right back with a shot in the tourney.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #1011 on: March 20, 2022, 02:02:36 PM »
Quote from: Custard on March 20, 2022, 01:55:30 PM
Exactly. Only what I’ve been saying for 2+ years now. Mr. Positionless Basketball constructed a very traditional roster.

Midget guards and marginal athleticism = early exits against length and athleticism.

It’s not a playing hard or prep issue it’s purely not being able to see over guys to pass or get passes around them. Or shoot over them. Or take anyone to the basket. We’re gonna like Sincere Harris and Ty Rodgers.

The problem is personnel based more so than scheme. Which lies at Underwood’s feet. Sampson rebuilt from losing five starters and had more injuries than us and yet here they are plugging in bouncy athlete after bouncy athlete that can go get buckets when we run them off the three point line.
This is why I like Goode and RJ. Goode was playing the 4 today against a 30-win team. Hawkins can stretch as well so it'll be interesting next year unless we transfer in a Plummer clone.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #1012 on: March 20, 2022, 02:04:01 PM »
Quote from: Mn on March 20, 2022, 01:57:10 PM
Luka Garza and Keegan Murray want to remind you that 3 years worth of AAs can come up empty handed too.

Ergo the "Unimaginable at Illinois"
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #1013 on: March 20, 2022, 02:04:56 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on March 20, 2022, 01:43:26 PM
The way Melendez was done this year, I’ll say he’s gone and gonna transfer. I would if I was him. Curbelo is gonna be gone too.

I don't think Melendez is going anywhere, he's going to be getting starter minutes from now on... thank fuck all of the John Groce Era is finally over with
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #1014 on: March 20, 2022, 02:09:31 PM »
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #1015 on: March 20, 2022, 02:10:22 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on March 20, 2022, 02:00:03 PM
Yeah I think we’ll be a tourney team next year. They’ve got length and size. See who we pick up in portal and if we get that Skyy kid who decommitted from KY, we’ll be right back with a shot in the tourney.

We are in rebuild/reload mode now.
It can be done as other programs have shown. We have a few decent returning pieces and promising recruits, but 100 other teams can say that. Literally.
Need a couple impact transfers.
I think until we see the roster in August we will not have a good idea of where we are at.

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Re: Underwood
« Reply #1016 on: March 20, 2022, 02:10:56 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on March 20, 2022, 02:04:56 PM
I don't think Melendez is going anywhere, he's going to be getting starter minutes from now on... thank fuck all of the John Groce Era is finally over with

The bad man can't hurt you any longer. The problem is getting your heart ripped out by Underachiever in March, you know,  when it actually counts.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #1017 on: March 20, 2022, 02:12:58 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on March 20, 2022, 02:09:31 PM
Man that stings…

https://twitter.com/gvlaker68/status/1505614678680031241?s=21

Don't care, the tourney is all about matchups and we got hosed 2 years straight by underseeded teams
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #1018 on: March 20, 2022, 02:14:27 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on March 20, 2022, 02:10:56 PM
The bad man can't hurt you any longer. The problem is getting your heart ripped out by Underachiever in March, you know,  when it actually counts.

I bet against the Illini today bro, only an idiot would have thought we had a chance to win against Houston or God forbid Arizona

No heart ripping here, just a realist and the expected result happened
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #1019 on: March 20, 2022, 02:16:26 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on March 20, 2022, 02:14:27 PM
I bet against the Illini today bro, only an idiot would have thought we had a chance to win against Houston or God forbid Arizona

No heart ripping here, just a realist and the expected result happened

Houston who was 1-4 against Quad 1 teams, not B1G co champs (regular season only) and down 2 starters?
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