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WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

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spark mandrill

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5415 on: July 18, 2023, 10:27:24 AM »
I don’t need to “gotcha” you. Your stupid ass is here right this second mocking scientists in lieu of the bad faith politicians selling a lie, again.

No gotcha necessary, you’re openly stupid.

We can pretend if you want, it’s kind of central to the worldview of morons like you to pretend, but you and I both know.


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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5416 on: July 18, 2023, 10:51:36 AM »
wow calling me stupid 3 times in 3 sentences, atta boy sparky !!!!!!

is that a new record?
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5417 on: July 18, 2023, 11:21:43 AM »
I originally thought the en masse pushback the left has against lab leak theory was perplexing, but it didn’t take me long to figure it out.

The pushback was against the growing conspiracy theories that implied the virus was engineered in the lab as a bioweapon. Your buddies in the right-wing echo chamber overplayed their hand.   

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5418 on: July 18, 2023, 11:30:38 AM »
Exactly.
Also that there were concerns in Oct and Nov 2019 of issues regarding WIV and an undiagnosed illness in Wuhan.

And why would NIAID issue a grant with sub-awards going to WIV that included language that the Commie Chinese have final approval over what data would be posted to GenBank, and not monitor the grant requirements ?

I haven't seen mention of this, but Proximal Origin continually refers to the available data and how it may be impacted by in vitro work.
WIV had humanized mice. I would assume that work with humanized mice would be in vivo.

We got the evidence. It was a lab leak of a virus specifically engineered to not harm Chinese and Ashkenazi Jews

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5419 on: July 18, 2023, 11:33:33 AM »
"Mainstream science" is about as honest these days as the mainstream media

Mainstream science says the temperature in Sparks is gonna hit 96 today. which is dishonest, it will be a smooth 78 degrees

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5420 on: July 18, 2023, 11:34:47 AM »
wow calling me stupid 3 times in 3 sentences, atta boy sparky !!!!!!

is that a new record?

Don't go see Oppenheimer. It's a science fiction movie about a bomb that never existed. Also JFK Jr is alive.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5421 on: July 18, 2023, 11:45:57 AM »
An issue appears to be that evidence was and remains missing. Or locked in a vault in Commie Chinese hands...


We will need China's cooperation either way. Remember, they are also withholding data from the Wuhan seafood market that may link Covid's origins to wild animals.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/17/health/covid-origins-who.html

And there is antoher theory that deserves some investigation; that the virus was originally found in nature before escaping from a lab.
https://newrepublic.com/article/171012/lab-leak-covid-gain-of-function

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5422 on: July 18, 2023, 11:55:06 AM »
wow calling me stupid 3 times in 3 sentences, atta boy sparky !!!!!!

is that a new record?

Do you still believe the COVID-19 vaccines are a gene therapy?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5423 on: July 18, 2023, 11:59:03 AM »
Exactly.
Also that there were concerns in Oct and Nov 2019 of issues regarding WIV and an undiagnosed illness in Wuhan...

https://www.factcheck.org/2023/06/scicheck-no-bombshell-on-covid-19-origins-u-s-intelligence-rebuts-claims-about-sick-lab-workers/

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5424 on: July 18, 2023, 12:50:09 PM »
Do you still believe the COVID-19 vaccines are a gene therapy?

did I ever?
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5425 on: July 18, 2023, 01:25:40 PM »

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5426 on: July 18, 2023, 01:38:09 PM »
Yep.

I don't remember that, is it on your spreadsheet?
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5427 on: July 18, 2023, 02:59:49 PM »
Interesting stuff, Alum. Thanks for the articles.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5428 on: July 18, 2023, 08:00:54 PM »
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Also, aren't these the same people who told us to wear gators and other face coverings that they knew would be ineffective because they wanted to save the good stuff for first responders? Granted, that is not the worst reason for lying, which is what it was, but the fact is they were lying to the public. Which always leads to the subsequent question were/are you also lying about X? They opened Pandora's Box, now they have to deal with it.

I disagree with this take.

Cloth masks were more effective than nothing, especially when layered
 While not very effective against incoming airborne viruses; they were effective at blocking outgoing droplets that potentially carried the virus before it became airborne.

An uninfected person in a low risk area would not benefit from a cloth mask.

As a national policy, advising people to wear layered cloth masks until surgical and the n95 masks became widely available was not a lie. It was sound policy.  Even though some would not directly benefit, we all benefited because the spread of the virus was slowed.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5429 on: July 18, 2023, 08:11:01 PM »
We will need China's cooperation either way. -of-function

In that context, going off half cocked with unproven lab leak and engineered bioweapon theories was probably not a wise approach to secure that cooperation.
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