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WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5370 on: July 16, 2023, 02:29:30 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on July 16, 2023, 01:54:24 PM
At first I was excited that Biden had an outsider challenging him…then I started seeing shit like this.

https://twitter.com/meidastouch/status/1680237265510092800?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ

You mean all of his prior anti vax stuff didn't do it for you?
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5371 on: July 16, 2023, 02:30:42 PM »
National Academy of Medicine rejects Republican allegations against member Peter Daszak
https://www.science.org/content/article/nam-exonerates-daszak

Republicans passionately defending family values against wokism, CRT, GoF, vaccines, grooming, and other sordid conspiracies.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5372 on: July 16, 2023, 04:51:07 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on July 16, 2023, 02:29:30 PM
You mean all of his prior anti vax stuff didn't do it for you?

I would categorize that as “shit like this.”
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5373 on: July 16, 2023, 06:05:44 PM »
Quote from: Mn on July 16, 2023, 07:43:30 AM
Page 109 of 216 pages of the rough drafts of Proximal Origins ....



And who might be included in the group of public health scientists ? Who convened this group ?

The letter, which references the Proximal Origins draft of Feb 16 that is undergoing peer review before rejection by Nature, was written Feb 19. Andersen was notified by Nature on Feb 20 that they would not be able to publish Proximal Origins.
And the Proximal Origins authors reference the letter 2 days later in support of their Feb 21 draft response to the concerns of Reviewer #2.



This "much too conflicted to think about this issue straight" Christian ?


And one of Fauci's first contacts was Jeremy Farrar, who Fauci contacted on Feb 1. Did they discuss the gain of function research in Wuhan and the intentional insertion of a mutation ?



And Peter Daszak is also included among the "public health scientists".

Let’s hear from two authors of the COVID-19 origin paper.
https://www.science.org/content/article/politicians-scientists-spar-over-alleged-nih-cover-up-using-covid-19-origin-paper
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5374 on: July 16, 2023, 06:10:08 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on July 16, 2023, 02:29:30 PM
You mean all of his prior anti vax stuff didn't do it for you?

I had the experience of attending his after lunch talk at a professional engineering national conference maybe 15 years ago.  No one knew to expect the wack job he really is.  I, and most of the audience, walked out before he finished.  WTF?
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5375 on: July 16, 2023, 08:53:24 PM »
Peter Daszak is probably also included among the "public health scientists" because he is an expert public health scientist.

Republicans efforts at the politics of personal destruction notwithstanding
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5376 on: July 16, 2023, 09:07:52 PM »
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5377 on: July 16, 2023, 09:09:52 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on July 16, 2023, 04:51:07 PM
I would categorize that as “shit like this.”

He's been a wack job for a long time, Tempo. As Ridethegrange noted. There was no reason to be excited he was entering the race unless you believe in his wacked out stuff.

He is also allegedly being funded by Bannon.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5378 on: July 17, 2023, 07:36:16 AM »
Quote from: illiniray on July 16, 2023, 08:53:24 PM
Peter Daszak is probably also included among the "public health scientists" because he is an expert public health scientist.

Republicans efforts at the politics of personal destruction notwithstanding
Re Daszak ...

Hey, thanks for approving our gain of function work.


 But sssshhhh. Very unwelcome attention to NIAID. Was this because he was 2 years late with his 2018 progress report requirement ?


His year 4 project report re inserting spike proteins into sars backbones, and the combination that was most pathogenic to the mice. I believe he was 2 years late in submitting this information to NIAID/NIH.


Scientist to scientist, just tell everybody the issue is settled.



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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5379 on: July 17, 2023, 09:17:33 AM »
Quote from: alum74 on July 16, 2023, 06:05:44 PM
Let’s hear from two authors of the COVID-19 origin paper.
https://www.science.org/content/article/politicians-scientists-spar-over-alleged-nih-cover-up-using-covid-19-origin-paper

Tho Garry mentions that Fauci mostly just listened to the science, did Andersen and Garry mention that some of the discussion did not pertain to science, as pointed out in an email to Andersen from the Oversight Committee to retain and produce his records ?


Feb 4, 2020.


And Feb 8. That it happened in Wuhan, where all of the work was being done is unfortunate.


Hey guys, we need to get a group together to work on the evolutionary origin of Covid. Maybe we could title it The Proximal Origin ...... ?


Feb 9. See, they also thought so..


And an email to Jon Cohen regarding the rumors beginning after their mentions that the virus looked engineered, Proximal Origin would say it wasn't and that the article was contrary to what the virologists on the call had explained.


And a nice leading question by Raskin to Andersen, 'you set out to refute a lab leak, didn't you ?'
He really, really wishes he could, but he couldn't do it.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5380 on: July 17, 2023, 10:59:52 AM »
I gave Raskin a pass on the leading question as that seems to be the de facto method of questioning by those committees despite the fact most of them are lawyers.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5381 on: July 17, 2023, 11:03:13 AM »
Surprised our resident free thinkers haven’t shown up to white knight for the establishment and big pharma yet after this display of right wing disinformation by Mn
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5382 on: July 17, 2023, 11:11:25 AM »
Looks like the 'free thinkers' are already out parroting whatever conspiracy the right wing outrage media is pushing today, doesn't it?

I bet THIS TIME they're giving you the whole story though.  The last couple thousand times aside, they've never been dishonest about this sort of thing.

Isn't that the sign of a true free thinker?  Being willing to believe the 1001st claim from someone who's lied to you the first 1000 times?
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5383 on: July 17, 2023, 11:29:01 AM »
Quote from: Custard on July 17, 2023, 11:03:13 AM
Surprised our resident free thinkers haven’t shown up to white knight for the establishment and big pharma yet after this display of right wing disinformation by Mn

Custard is our resident expert at building a strawman. 
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5384 on: July 17, 2023, 11:36:15 AM »
Quote from: Custard on July 17, 2023, 11:03:13 AM
Surprised our resident free thinkers haven’t shown up to white knight for the establishment and big pharma yet after this display of right wing disinformation by Mn

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