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WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1035 on: November 12, 2020, 02:34:23 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on November 12, 2020, 12:56:03 PM
Good thing they locked down all spring and summer and made masks mandatory!  Really working wonders it seems...

I think I'll screen cap this post as a perfect example of the arrogance and stupidity that led us to the worst social & economic crisis since 1933.

Dumbass: the ignorant people (you, your cohort) didn't wear the masks. They didn't follow the guidelines.

That's why we're here.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1036 on: November 12, 2020, 02:56:08 PM »
Quote from: fucking on November 12, 2020, 02:34:23 PM
I think I'll screen cap this post as a perfect example of the arrogance and stupidity that led us to the worst social & economic crisis since 1933.

Dumbass: the ignorant people (you, your cohort) didn't wear the masks. They didn't follow the guidelines.

That's why we're here.
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The red on the covid counties map matches the red on the election map
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1037 on: November 12, 2020, 05:13:41 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on November 12, 2020, 12:56:03 PM
Good thing they locked down all spring and summer and made masks mandatory!  Really working wonders it seems...

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1038 on: November 12, 2020, 07:27:00 PM »
Quote from: fucking on November 12, 2020, 02:34:23 PM
I think I'll screen cap this post as a perfect example of the arrogance and stupidity that led us to the worst social & economic crisis since 1933.

Dumbass: the ignorant people (you, your cohort) didn't wear the masks. They didn't follow the guidelines.

That's why we're here.

mask compliance seems to be pretty high just about everywhere that has rising cases according to the NY times, its almost like this is flu season in the north again and there's not a god damn thing you can do to stop any virus at this point.  especially not some worthless cotton or paper mask strapped on your face lol

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1039 on: November 12, 2020, 07:29:01 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on November 12, 2020, 02:56:08 PM
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The red on the covid counties map matches the red on the election map

yes its almost like the virus burned through a densely populated area and killed off the most vulnerable first, and now its still spreading to the less populated areas and killing those most vulnerable... its almost like this is exactly the same as every single fucking coronavirus we've dealt with in the last 200 years
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1040 on: November 12, 2020, 08:09:48 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on November 12, 2020, 07:27:00 PM
mask compliance seems to be pretty high just about everywhere that has rising cases according to the NY times, its almost like this is flu season in the north again and there's not a god damn thing you can do to stop any virus at this point.  especially not some worthless cotton or paper mask strapped on your face lol



Yes, we all know that mask usage is especially widespread in South Dakota, the state with the highest COVID hospitalization rate in the country.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1041 on: November 12, 2020, 09:30:58 PM »
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1042 on: November 12, 2020, 09:44:19 PM »
Quote from: fucking on November 12, 2020, 02:34:23 PM
I think I'll screen cap this post as a perfect example of the arrogance and stupidity that led us to the worst social & economic crisis since 1933.

Dumbass: the ignorant people (you, your cohort) didn't wear the masks. They didn't follow the guidelines.

That's why we're here.

What about the mostly peaceful protests?
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1043 on: November 12, 2020, 09:47:24 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on November 12, 2020, 07:29:01 PM
yes its almost like the virus burned through a densely populated area and killed off the most vulnerable first, and now its still spreading to the less populated areas and killing those most vulnerable... its almost like this is exactly the same as every single fucking coronavirus we've dealt with in the last 200 years

Not sure if stupid or just trolling.

Your mask photo shows that the mask rate is best in areas that have the LOWEST current case counts - modulo El Paso. The Plains and upper midwest, and the SEC countries minus FLA are doing the worst, and don't wear masks.

As for this statement - on a per capita basis, California and New York are in the lowest quartile of cases over the entirety of the pandemic. As is California said "Wow, this pandemic is making a lot of people sick" and the Dakotas said "hold my beer"

Illinois is in the top 10 overall - BUT - Cook County is in the bottom third of per capita cases for the state of Illinois. The rural counties are doing the worst, including Grundy County where my Cousin is now in a COVID quaranitine area.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1044 on: November 13, 2020, 09:25:31 AM »
 Swedes in seven of the country’s 21 regions -- representing roughly 70% of the population -- will be required to:
Avoid physical contact with people besides those with whom they share a home
Avoid indoor spaces in which crowds can form
Avoid parties, weddings, funerals and similar events
Employers should ensure that staff who can work from home do so
https://fortune.com/.../sweden-restrictions-winter-covid.../
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1045 on: November 13, 2020, 09:26:51 AM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on November 12, 2020, 09:47:24 PM
Not sure if stupid or just trolling.

Your mask photo shows that the mask rate is best in areas that have the LOWEST current case counts - modulo El Paso. The Plains and upper midwest, and the SEC countries minus FLA are doing the worst, and don't wear masks.

As for this statement - on a per capita basis, California and New York are in the lowest quartile of cases over the entirety of the pandemic. As is California said "Wow, this pandemic is making a lot of people sick" and the Dakotas said "hold my beer"

Illinois is in the top 10 overall - BUT - Cook County is in the bottom third of per capita cases for the state of Illinois. The rural counties are doing the worst, including Grundy County where my Cousin is now in a COVID quaranitine area.

how did new york do and california do on deaths?  Cases mean nothing at this point and the tests are a waste of time.  Early on they help but now they just do nothing more than fear monger.  The virus, is everywhere now. 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1046 on: November 13, 2020, 09:34:29 AM »
I think I remember some folks saying that it'll be gone on November 4th?
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1047 on: November 13, 2020, 09:46:35 AM »
It's not exactly everywhere.

"Nov. 7, 2020, 5:45 PM CST
By Yuliya Talmazan and Eric Baculinao
Masks, hand sanitizer and temperature checks three times a day.

That's the average day for millions of schoolchildren in China, as the country where Covid-19 was first identified has all but declared victory over the coronavirus.

China, a country of 1.4 billion people, has not reported a single Covid-19 death since April 26, according to the country's National Health Commission — the only official source of information about coronavirus infection rates in China. NBC News could not independently verify the reported numbers."

There you have it.



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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1048 on: November 13, 2020, 09:51:01 AM »
Quote from: Mn on November 13, 2020, 09:46:35 AM
It's not exactly everywhere.

"Nov. 7, 2020, 5:45 PM CST
By Yuliya Talmazan and Eric Baculinao
Masks, hand sanitizer and temperature checks three times a day.

That's the average day for millions of schoolchildren in China, as the country where Covid-19 was first identified has all but declared victory over the coronavirus.

China, a country of 1.4 billion people, has not reported a single Covid-19 death since April 26, according to the country's National Health Commission — the only official source of information about coronavirus infection rates in China. NBC News could not independently verify the reported numbers."

There you have it.



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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1049 on: November 13, 2020, 10:12:30 AM »
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We currently test for SARS-CoV-2 using the ‘real-time reverse transcription polymerase chain reaction test’ (rt-PCR test). The test does not detect the virus itself, but detects the presence of genetic material of the virus called RNA. It does this by amplifying any RNA which is present in the sample. Think of it as a zoom lens on a camera. The cycle threshold (ct) is the number of times the specimen needs to be amplified in order to be able to detect whether or not virus RNA is present. At high cycle thresholds, the test can detect fragments of the RNA. These fragments of the virus, as opposed to complete strands, are not infectious. The test can even detect pieces of the virus that are left over from a previous infection weeks before.

Experts say that a cycle threshold over 35 is too sensitive to be meaningful. The US Centres for Disease Control has shown that patients who test positive at a cycle threshold of 33 or higher are probably not carrying enough of a viral load to transmit SARS-CoV-2 to others. Testing for Covid-19 follows a protocol set by the manufacturers of the tests. Our research shows that cycle thresholds of 37 to 40 are being used in most countries – way in excess of the levels recommended by epidemiologists and virologists. Some countries have changed the cycle thresholds over time resulting in a more sensitive test between the ‘first’ and ‘second’ waves.

The rt-PCR test was never intended to, and cannot, detect infectiousness.  A review conducted by the New York Times of three sets of coronavirus testing data from Massachusetts, Nevada, and New York found that up to 90% of patients who tested positive for the virus were what scientists refer to as ‘cold positives’. Cold positives are distinguished from ‘hot positives’ who are actually infected with an intact virus. ‘Cold positives’ have very, very low viral loads and are not ill, not symptomatic, not going to become symptomatic and, most importantly, they are not able to infect others. The New York Times reported that if the rt-PCR test was run at recommended cycle thresholds, up to 90% of ‘cases’ would have been negative.

The way rt-PCR test protocols work, only a yes/no result is produced. They only tell you if a fragment of virus was found. This could be a piece of ‘dead’ virus that can’t make the subject sick or contagious. Even where intact virus is present, the test results do not currently give an indication of whether there was a sufficient viral load for the subject to be contagious.
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