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WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #960 on: October 14, 2020, 03:56:51 PM »
“Here’s a good article” aka “here’s an article that supports my viewpoint “
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #961 on: October 14, 2020, 10:23:28 PM »
Science is real.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #962 on: October 14, 2020, 10:47:06 PM »
Science is real.

practically a religion these days

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #963 on: October 14, 2020, 11:00:09 PM »
A philosophy major eh?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #964 on: October 15, 2020, 07:01:19 AM »
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lol.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #965 on: October 15, 2020, 09:03:31 AM »
"Inaugural Official HQ2 Tempo AOTC Award Winner"

lol.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #966 on: October 15, 2020, 10:48:08 AM »
practically a religion these days


I don’t think science should be followed without question, but I think blindly following what scientific experts say is preferable to the model used by our president and his supporters:
1. Listen to what the scientists say (or don’t, doesn’t really matter).
2. Do whatever personally benefits you the most.
3. Make up some bullshit that sounds good to support #2.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #967 on: October 15, 2020, 11:29:51 AM »
I don’t think science should be followed without question, but I think blindly following what scientific experts say is preferable to the model used by our president and his supporters:
1. Listen to what the scientists say (or don’t, doesn’t really matter).
2. Do whatever personally benefits you the most.
3. Make up some bullshit that sounds good to support #2.


Three thoughts:
1.   People who promote the role of science in public policy discussions recognize that scientists are human.   That’s why academic science includes a system of "checks and balances" like peer-review and transparency in study methods.
2.   Policymakers typically don’t rely purely on scientific information (human health, environmental, etc.) to make decisions.  It’s a balancing act that also involves economic, technological and political considerations.
3.   If we add conspiracy theories, fake experts and logical fallacies to confirmation bias in the second chart, I think that would make ILLove1997 a “Science Worshiper.”   Who would have thunk it? 

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #968 on: October 15, 2020, 11:50:59 AM »
don't be jealous, it was awarded to me by the mighty PAM
Sorry about that. My apologies.
I thought it was maybe self awarded.
Rest assured. I'm not jealous.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #969 on: October 15, 2020, 11:56:05 AM »
3.   If we add conspiracy theories, fake experts and logical fallacies to confirmation bias in the second chart, I think that would make ILLove1997 a “Science Worshiper.”   Who would have thunk it?

your claim is incorrect, time to go back to the hypothesis stage buddy
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #970 on: October 15, 2020, 12:38:49 PM »
Sorry about that. My apologies.
I thought it was maybe self awarded.
Rest assured. I'm not jealous.

I'll come up with an award for you too shortly.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #971 on: October 15, 2020, 12:59:55 PM »
I'll come up with an award for you too shortly.
Didnt I get the 1st why do you hate America award, or something like that, recently ?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #972 on: October 15, 2020, 03:28:29 PM »
I don’t think science should be followed without question, but I think blindly following what scientific experts say is preferable to the model used by our president and his supporters:
1. Listen to what the scientists say (or don’t, doesn’t really matter).
2. Do whatever personally benefits you the most.
3. Make up some bullshit that sounds good to support #2.

The whole point of science is asking questions. Look at the chart.

The problem we have is that humans who do not understand the scientific method work in simple absolutes. "What am I supposed to do, and what will be the result".

"The doctor told me to diet and exercise more, for my heart. I got a heart attack anyway. The doctor was wrong"

No - the doctor was right, diet and exercise will be good for your heart, but genetic factors and pre-existing issues might mean that even with diet and exercise, you might get a heart attack.

The more salient recent example is Hydroxychloroquine. Trump says "it works". Doctors say "we have no clear data" - because they are scientists and won't say "it doesn't work" because they haven't proved it doesn't work, but they have no proof that it does. When you have humans who want an absolute answer, "we lack proof" can't compete with "it works!"

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #973 on: October 15, 2020, 03:57:12 PM »
Didnt I get the 1st why do you hate America award, or something like that, recently ?

"America hater" was a "title" bestowed upon a number of you, including Gelato. It was not an "award."
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #974 on: October 20, 2020, 12:17:39 PM »
The COVID-19 Fall Surge Is Here. We Can Stop It:
What we can learn from other countries to avoid the worst-case scenario

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/10/how-keep-fall-surge-becoming-winter-catastrophe/616674/