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WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3795 on: December 22, 2021, 10:34:57 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 22, 2021, 10:32:25 PM
Out of the estimated 800,000 that have died from from Covid, how many were “old people with co-morbidities?” What would you have done for them? Prescribed more orange juice?

Definitely not shoved them in nursing homes like Cuomo and Pelosi did! 😬 so I mean more Vitamin D probably isn’t a bad idea. At least they’d have a better shot than that!
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3796 on: December 22, 2021, 11:16:55 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 22, 2021, 10:32:25 PM
Out of the estimated 800,000 that have died from from Covid, how many were “old people with co-morbidities?”

The primary percentage.

Quote from: Tempo34 on December 22, 2021, 10:32:25 PM
What would you have done for them? Prescribed more orange juice?

Suggested they do what Robb, Ray, and Alum do. In addition to doing whatever they could to strengthen their immune systems through diet and exercise.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3797 on: December 23, 2021, 07:28:01 AM »
WaPo writer does his damndest to skirt around using the term "natural immunity" in his story when quoting the guy from S Africa, because we don't talk that way in the USA. Brings to mind Birx in August 2020 refusing to meet with the 'medical expert' wingnuts, and Collins and Fauci in Oct 2020 discussing rapidly burying the Great Barrington Declaration proposed by the 'fringe epidemiologists'.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3798 on: December 23, 2021, 10:33:06 AM »
There's no money to be made or control to be had with natural immunity
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3799 on: December 23, 2021, 10:50:30 AM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on December 23, 2021, 10:33:06 AM
There's no money to be made or control to be had with natural immunity

Oh brother. Just saw some numbers.  One example used was a 75 year old woman with normal heatlh. Vaxxed 0.45% chance of dying if get The COVID.  Not vaxxed, over 5%. Yeah, you are full of shit.

Meanwhile the hospitals are packed with anti vax assholes.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3800 on: December 23, 2021, 11:29:47 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on December 23, 2021, 10:50:30 AM
Oh brother. Just saw some numbers.  One example used was a 75 year old woman with normal heatlh. Vaxxed 0.45% chance of dying if get The COVID.  Not vaxxed, over 5%. Yeah, you are full of shit.

Meanwhile the hospitals are packed with anti vax assholes.

if you're over 50 get the shot

if you're not and in good health, don't bother

why is that an antivaxxer take lol
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3801 on: December 23, 2021, 12:10:51 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on December 23, 2021, 11:29:47 AM
if you're over 50 get the shot

if you're not and in good health, don't bother

why is that an antivaxxer take lol

Cuz he’s a fucking loser idiot. That’s why. He’s a fucking troll. I wouldn’t even bother with him.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3802 on: December 23, 2021, 12:32:29 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on December 23, 2021, 10:33:06 AM
There's no money to be made or control to be had with natural immunity

Except a certain percentage of people are requiring hospitalization and dying trying to get it. 
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3803 on: December 23, 2021, 12:37:00 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on December 23, 2021, 11:29:47 AM
if you're over 50 get the shot

if you're not and in good health, don't bother

why is that an antivaxxer take lol

Saying no money to be made is not an antivaxxer take (as the hospitals are filled up)? You are the Tempo34 of COVID. Add that to your sig!
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3804 on: December 23, 2021, 12:38:49 PM »
Quote from: alum74 on December 23, 2021, 12:32:29 PM
Except a certain percentage of people are requiring hospitalization and dying trying to get it.

And now all these mandates are being put in place because of asshole conspiracy theorists.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3805 on: December 23, 2021, 01:11:49 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on December 23, 2021, 12:38:49 PM
And now all these mandates are being put in place because of asshole conspiracy theorists.

no they are being put in place because authoritarians love power and will never ever relinquish it
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3806 on: December 23, 2021, 01:25:26 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on December 23, 2021, 01:11:49 PM
no they are being put in place because authoritarians love power and will never ever relinquish it

GMAFB. You are purportedly smarter than JizzJerkoff. Mandating you wear a fucking mask at a shopping mall does not keep people subserviant so they don't vote you out. That is just fucking stupid.

You steal Gelato's stash?
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3807 on: December 23, 2021, 01:27:18 PM »
QAnon97 may want to check the amount of the lead in the drinking water out there in Reno.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3808 on: December 23, 2021, 05:54:49 PM »
Quote from: alum74 on December 22, 2021, 08:03:55 PM
I think the jury is still out on the antiviral properties of vitamin D. 
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/can-vitamin-d-help-protect-against-covid/

https://www.popsci.com/science/vitamin-d-immunity-viruses/

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/04/14/985863133/a-year-in-heres-what-we-know-about-vitamin-d-for-preventing-covid

Having said that, I’m taking vitamin D supplements at the recommendation of my doctor.  He checked my vitamin D levels via a blood test and found I was deficient.   He also recommended that I mask up, social distance and avoid large groups in indoor settings.  Doing all these things made sense to me, including the vitamin supplements. 

I also noticed a series of articles in late summer/early fall 2020, in which Fauci was quoted saying that vitamin D supplements are important if you are deficient.   He also recommended getting enough sleep, maintaining a healthy diet and alleviating stress through exercise to help keep your immune system strong.

With Trump at the helm, it unfortunately was hard to broadcast a cohesive, consistent safety message to the public in the first 4-6 months of the pandemic.   Birx and Fauci were spending too much time trying to correct Trump's many false COVID claims.   

Remember those daily press briefings?   Painful to watch.     

Other than your April and June articles, I might skip your Popular Science article by MK Menon and go with something more current from the NIH......
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" Both datasets show a strong correlation between the death rate caused by SARS-CoV-2 and the vitamin D blood level. At a threshold level of 30 ng/mL, mortality decreases considerably. In addition, our analysis shows that the correlation for the combined datasets intersects the axis at approximately 50 ng/mL, which suggests that this vitamin D3 blood level may prevent any excess mortality. "
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8541492/
COVID-19 Mortality Risk Correlates Inversely with Vitamin D3 Status, and a Mortality Rate Close to Zero Could Theoretically Be Achieved at 50 ng/mL 25(OH)D3: Results of a Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3809 on: December 23, 2021, 06:03:33 PM »
Quote from: Mn on December 23, 2021, 05:54:49 PM
Other than your April and June articles, I might skip your Popular Science article by MK Menon and go with something more current from the NIH......
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" Both datasets show a strong correlation between the death rate caused by SARS-CoV-2 and the vitamin D blood level. At a threshold level of 30 ng/mL, mortality decreases considerably. In addition, our analysis shows that the correlation for the combined datasets intersects the axis at approximately 50 ng/mL, which suggests that this vitamin D3 blood level may prevent any excess mortality. "
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8541492/
COVID-19 Mortality Risk Correlates Inversely with Vitamin D3 Status, and a Mortality Rate Close to Zero Could Theoretically Be Achieved at 50 ng/mL 25(OH)D3: Results of a Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis

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