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WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3675 on: December 15, 2021, 09:22:03 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on December 15, 2021, 08:19:04 PM
CNN, but I found it interesting.

How millions of jobless Americans can afford to ditch work

https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/15/economy/labor-force-retirement-great-resignation/index.html
Anyone who is retired has probably thought of this already. I'm sure many will also say they wish they would have retired a couple of years earlier.
With the lab leaked virus, the decision to retire early was essentially forced on them.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3676 on: December 15, 2021, 09:32:36 PM »
Quote from: Mn on December 15, 2021, 09:22:03 PM
Anyone who is retired has probably thought of this already. I'm sure many will also say they wish they would have retired a couple of years earlier.
With the lab leaked virus, the decision to retire early was essentially forced on them.

Plenty of jobs out there if you want to go back to work!

Maybe you can be Illinois OC!
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3677 on: December 15, 2021, 11:26:19 PM »
It makes some sense. From what I’ve seen people have left their jobs for one of three primary reasons:

Mask mandate

Vaccine mandate

Got a better job
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3678 on: December 15, 2021, 11:50:37 PM »
Fish don't know about water.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3679 on: December 16, 2021, 02:21:16 PM »
Masks don't work. The viruses are so small, they pass right through. Besides that, the masks hold in co2 and block out oxygen, making it hard to breathe. They also trap in harmful molds,  bacteria, and viruses. That's the science!
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3680 on: December 16, 2021, 05:04:45 PM »
Quote from: Custard on December 15, 2021, 11:26:19 PM
It makes some sense. From what I’ve seen people have left their jobs for one of three primary reasons:

Mask mandate

Vaccine mandate

Got a better job

Let’s expand your list a little to include workplace stress: 

Facing a new flood of COVID patients, Colorado nurses say the stress is unsustainable
“Kris Kloster has been a nurse for 32 years, much of that in the ICU.  So she's seen layoffs and staff reductions even before the pandemic hit. Now ICU nurses are dealing with colleagues quitting, restrictions on visitors, worries about catching the virus, anger from some patients who do not believe they have COVID-19.”

“At the same time, they must cope with suffering and deaths.”

“Nearly a third of the hospital's registered nurse staff has left since the start of July and many have not been replaced…”
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/12/15/1064344100/facing-a-new-flood-of-covid-patients-colorado-nurses-say-the-stress-is-unsustain
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3681 on: December 16, 2021, 06:16:32 PM »
This might be a good time to take the health care worker vaccine mandate to SCOTUS.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3682 on: December 16, 2021, 07:29:36 PM »
That won’t solve the stress and burnout in the health care sector.   
https://www.ama-assn.org/practice-management/physician-health/half-health-workers-report-burnout-amid-covid-19

And if you look at hospitals and healthcare systems that have mandated the vaccines on their own, they’ve retained between 95% to 99% of their workforce.
https://www.fiercehealthcare.com/hospitals/how-many-employees-have-hospitals-lost-to-vaccine-mandates-numbers-so-far

Get jabbed and boosted folks. 
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3683 on: December 16, 2021, 07:55:00 PM »
Quote from: alum74 on December 16, 2021, 05:04:45 PM
Let’s expand your list a little to include workplace stress: 
That's just anecdotal. Fart has first hand evidence that covid isn't real or not that bad among white, rural working class people involved in ag, sales and/or transportation industries.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3684 on: December 16, 2021, 07:55:36 PM »
Quote from: Mn on December 16, 2021, 06:16:32 PM
This might be a good time to take the health care worker vaccine mandate to SCOTUS.

They already ruled.in 1905.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3685 on: December 16, 2021, 08:50:14 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on December 16, 2021, 07:55:36 PM
They already ruled.in 1905.
They ruled about health care facilities that provide care to Medicare recipients in 1905 ?
Why are they asked to rule again ?
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3686 on: December 16, 2021, 08:55:51 PM »
Quote from: Mn on December 16, 2021, 08:50:14 PM
They ruled about health care facilities that provide care to Medicare recipients in 1905 ?
Why are they asked to rule again ?

Because people can still sue whenever they want
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3687 on: December 16, 2021, 08:58:46 PM »
Quote from: alum74 on December 16, 2021, 07:29:36 PM
That won’t solve the stress and burnout in the health care sector.   
https://www.ama-assn.org/practice-management/physician-health/half-health-workers-report-burnout-amid-covid-19

And if you look at hospitals and healthcare systems that have mandated the vaccines on their own, they’ve retained between 95% to 99% of their workforce.
https://www.fiercehealthcare.com/hospitals/how-many-employees-have-hospitals-lost-to-vaccine-mandates-numbers-so-far

Get jabbed and boosted folks. 

The CMS mandate may be more restrictive than requirements that individual health care facilities have in place.
Losing administrative or support personnel is one thing. Losing care personnel is another.
Nonetheless, imo leave these people alone other than to thank them and reward them. 
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3688 on: December 16, 2021, 08:59:32 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on December 16, 2021, 08:55:51 PM
Because people can still sue whenever they want
You should be a lawyer.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3689 on: December 16, 2021, 08:59:39 PM »
Quote from: Mn on December 16, 2021, 08:50:14 PM
They ruled about health care facilities that provide care to Medicare recipients in 1905 ?
Why are they asked to rule again ?

Nonetheless,  I believe there was already an injunction entered prohibiting that one from being enforced nationally.
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