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WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3645 on: December 10, 2021, 12:20:17 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on December 09, 2021, 06:23:12 PM
I'll say it again, I'm not anti vaccines, I'm anti-rushed-gene-therapy-for-no-reason


Chance That COVID-19 Vaccines Are Gene Therapy? 'Zero'
https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20210719/covid-19-vaccines-not-gene-therapy

Fact Check-mRNA vaccines are distinct from gene therapy, which alters recipient’s genes
https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-covid-mrna-gene/fact-check-mrna-vaccines-are-distinct-from-gene-therapy-which-alters-recipients-genes-idUSL1N2PH16N

Why mRNA vaccines aren’t gene therapies
https://www.genomicseducation.hee.nhs.uk/blog/why-mrna-vaccines-arent-gene-therapies/
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3646 on: December 10, 2021, 12:46:38 PM »
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3647 on: December 10, 2021, 01:17:48 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on December 09, 2021, 06:23:12 PM
I'll say it again, I'm not anti vaccines, I'm anti-rushed-gene-therapy-for-no-reason

If I was over 50 I would get it, since I'm not, and I've had covid already, no thank you, the risk of side effects greatly outweighs any benefit.


Sorry you're an authoritarian asshole and can't get that through your thick skull but whatever

Well, the Chinese invented COVID which is gene therapy I guess, since COVID produces the same mRNA that the vaccine uses, and you took that for no reason. I'm not sure if the Chinese invented COVID in a rushed manner, so you do have that going for you.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3648 on: December 10, 2021, 02:28:11 PM »
Quote from: Custard on December 10, 2021, 09:13:50 AM
Yeah he beat the shit out of that straw man.

Look at the bright side, he thinks you have intelligence but just use it for villainy. Can't say he thinks the same about Q97.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3649 on: December 10, 2021, 04:31:12 PM »
You can't argue with stupidity.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3650 on: December 10, 2021, 07:06:35 PM »
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3651 on: December 11, 2021, 10:36:52 AM »
https://qz.com/2101126/us-cdcs-covid-19-vaccination-rates-appear-inflated-say-experts/

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They note that the CDC as of Dec. 5 has recorded more seniors at least partly vaccinated —55.4 million—than there are people in that age group—54.1 million, according to the latest census data from 2019. The CDC’s vaccination rate for residents 65 and older is also significantly higher than the 89% vaccination rate found in a poll conducted in November by the Kaiser Family Foundation.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3652 on: December 11, 2021, 10:49:58 AM »
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3653 on: December 11, 2021, 11:33:29 AM »
Seems like two options are available to sort things out:

Call in the Cyber Ninjas, 

or…

CDC works with state and local public health officials to fix the vaccine data.
https://www.post-gazette.com/news/covid-19/2021/11/29/CDC-is-fixing-its-Pa-vaccine-data-after-reports-of-inaccuracy/stories/202111290134

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3654 on: December 11, 2021, 11:59:09 AM »
1 state (Pa) getting fixed. Just 20 more to go, if they all contact the CDC.
"The CDC never picked up the new data, despite Pennsylvania health officials’ requests."
Should be fixed in a few weeks, when it will be out of date data anyway.
Lol.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3655 on: December 11, 2021, 01:40:13 PM »
Quote from: Mn on December 11, 2021, 11:59:09 AM
1 state (Pa) getting fixed. Just 20 more to go, if they all contact the CDC.
"The CDC never picked up the new data, despite Pennsylvania health officials’ requests."
Should be fixed in a few weeks, when it will be out of date data anyway.
Lol.

Looks like several other states have been working with the CDC to clear up the vaccine data discrepancies.   

But that requires work.  Much easier to turn the vaccination data into a political football. 

COVID vaccine pharmacy data in Georgia and other states is incorrect, CDC says
https://www.ledger-enquirer.com/news/coronavirus/article250061644.html
Read more at: https://www.ledger-enquirer.com/news/coronavirus/article250061644.html#storylink=cpy

Hawaii Corrects Vaccination Rates After Booster Report Error
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/hawaii/articles/2021-11-30/hawaii-corrects-vaccination-rates-after-booster-report-error

CDC: Kentucky Vaccination Totals Over-Reported Due to Database Error
https://www.wkyufm.org/post/cdc-kentucky-vaccination-totals-over-reported-due-database-error#stream/0

State [NC] working to clear up CDC data discrepancy
https://www.wral.com/coronavirus/state-working-to-clear-up-cdc-data-discrepancy/19484575/

Vaccine dose count caught up in data discrepancies, community health centers say
https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/vaccine-dose-count-caught-up-data-discrepancies-community-health-centers-say-2021-02-03/

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3656 on: December 11, 2021, 01:48:04 PM »
Quote from: alum74 on December 11, 2021, 01:40:13 PM
Looks like several other states have been working with the CDC to clear up the vaccine data discrepancies.   

But that requires work.  Much easier to turn the vaccination data into a political football. 

COVID vaccine pharmacy data in Georgia and other states is incorrect, CDC says
https://www.ledger-enquirer.com/news/coronavirus/article250061644.html
Read more at: https://www.ledger-enquirer.com/news/coronavirus/article250061644.html#storylink=cpy

Hawaii Corrects Vaccination Rates After Booster Report Error
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/hawaii/articles/2021-11-30/hawaii-corrects-vaccination-rates-after-booster-report-error

CDC: Kentucky Vaccination Totals Over-Reported Due to Database Error
https://www.wkyufm.org/post/cdc-kentucky-vaccination-totals-over-reported-due-database-error#stream/0

State [NC] working to clear up CDC data discrepancy
https://www.wral.com/coronavirus/state-working-to-clear-up-cdc-data-discrepancy/19484575/

Vaccine dose count caught up in data discrepancies, community health centers say
https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/vaccine-dose-count-caught-up-data-discrepancies-community-health-centers-say-2021-02-03/


3 of those are from Jan, Feb and March. So those don't count.
Looks as tho Ky should have been corrected by early Nov.
Hawaii is current.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3657 on: December 11, 2021, 02:38:35 PM »
Quote from: Mn on December 11, 2021, 01:48:04 PM
3 of those are from Jan, Feb and March. So those don't count.
Looks as tho Ky should have been corrected by early Nov.
Hawaii is current.

Yep, the data discrepancies were flagged and acknowledged several months ago.  That's good.  You think those states and CDC have stopped working together to address descrepancies?     

Oh, wait...the CDC just issued a statement about the vaccination data problem:  "One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear."
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3658 on: December 11, 2021, 03:23:50 PM »
Quote from: alum74 on December 11, 2021, 02:38:35 PM
Yep, the data discrepancies were flagged and acknowledged several months ago.  That's good.  You think those states and CDC have stopped working together to address descrepancies?     

Oh, wait...the CDC just issued a statement about the vaccination data problem:  "One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear."
Close enough, at least hopefully by the end of the year, for government work.
This is not rocket surgery. You give a shot, you log a shot.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3659 on: December 11, 2021, 04:32:34 PM »
Quote from: Mn on December 11, 2021, 03:23:50 PM
Close enough, at least hopefully by the end of the year, for government work.
This is not rocket surgery. You give a shot, you log a shot.

It’s a little more complicated than that; it involves recording, storing, managing, reporting and analyzing the following information for each vaccination: 
•   Name,
•   Address
•   Sex
•   Date of birth
•   Race and ethnicity
•   The date and location of the vaccination
•   The shot received 

This big data collection effort comes after decades of the “hollowing-out” of federal, state and local health departments due to budgetary caps, staff retirements/brain drain and poor leadership. 

Upgrading data collection will be a work in progress.  Agree that it should be a government priority.     
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