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WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3480 on: November 30, 2021, 09:03:11 AM »
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3481 on: November 30, 2021, 02:01:36 PM »
Quote from: Mn on November 30, 2021, 06:22:27 AM
Those 3 grants to the author, from Fauci's NIAID, may be paying some dividends.


https://vivo.weill.cornell.edu/display/cwid-jpm2003

Any evidence that the source of the funding influenced the authors thinking?

Any thoughts on the actual substance of the article?

"We may never know the origin of Covid-19. The lack of hard facts precludes certainty and the knowledge gaps will probably not now be filled."

"The debate is between the natural-origin and lab-leak theories, and it is becoming increasingly sterile and ever-more vicious."

"One positive outcome is that lab-leak theory has refocused the world’s virologists on an important scientific topic: gain-of-function research."

"Any remaining ambiguities in how gain-of-function research is defined, conducted and regulated need definitive resolutions. The risks of triggering a new human pandemic must be clearly understood and respected. We must satisfy the public that our work benefits society and does not threaten it."

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3482 on: November 30, 2021, 02:10:32 PM »
Quote from: Mn on November 30, 2021, 06:51:10 AM
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All County workforce members must be fully vaccinated against COVID-19 and must provide proof of full vaccination against COVID-19, unless they have been granted an exemption for medical or religious reasons.
The County is expanding its contract with Fulgent, a leader in laboratory testing services and an existing vendor with the County, to maintain employee vaccination records and conduct required regular COVID-19 testing for applicable employees, contractors, and volunteers.


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Why is correspondence addressed to "The Honorable" ?

DNA Data obtained?

We need to defund the police just because they are a bunch of morons.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3483 on: November 30, 2021, 02:49:44 PM »
Quote from: Mn on November 30, 2021, 06:51:10 AM
https://employee.hr.lacounty.gov/vaccinationsmandate/
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Using the Fulgent System
All County workforce members must be fully vaccinated against COVID-19 and must provide proof of full vaccination against COVID-19, unless they have been granted an exemption for medical or religious reasons.
The County is expanding its contract with Fulgent, a leader in laboratory testing services and an existing vendor with the County, to maintain employee vaccination records and conduct required regular COVID-19 testing for applicable employees, contractors, and volunteers.


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Why is correspondence addressed to "The Honorable" ?

Usually, if it sounds like a hoax it is. This is not. Reality stranger than fake news. 

Fulgent met with L.A. County leaders last month to address their concerns.

“These representatives from the L.A. County sheriff’s office were made aware that Fulgent does not collect any personal DNA in connection with COVID testing and disregarded all of Fulgent’s valid points from this conversation in writing this letter to the L.A. [County] Board of Supervisors,”

In a statement Tuesday, Perthuis wrote that the U.S.-based company was founded and is led by American citizens. He said the company does not share personal data about people who are tested with the Chinese government and that the company does not use samples collected during tests to sequence people’s unique DNA structure.
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-11-29/la-county-sheriff-fulgent-genetics-covid-testing-data-china
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3484 on: November 30, 2021, 03:10:26 PM »
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3485 on: November 30, 2021, 04:10:45 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on November 30, 2021, 02:49:44 PM
Usually, if it sounds like a hoax it is. This is not. Reality stranger than fake news. 

Fulgent met with L.A. County leaders last month to address their concerns.

“These representatives from the L.A. County sheriff’s office were made aware that Fulgent does not collect any personal DNA in connection with COVID testing and disregarded all of Fulgent’s valid points from this conversation in writing this letter to the L.A. [County] Board of Supervisors,”

In a statement Tuesday, Perthuis wrote that the U.S.-based company was founded and is led by American citizens. He said the company does not share personal data about people who are tested with the Chinese government and that the company does not use samples collected during tests to sequence people’s unique DNA structure.
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-11-29/la-county-sheriff-fulgent-genetics-covid-testing-data-china

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Perthuis said " He said the company does not share personal data about people who are tested with the Chinese government and that the company does not use samples collected during tests to sequence people’s unique DNA structure."

We do not share directly, we do not sequence, if you dont like it you should opt out.
LA County employees ? You can quit if you don't like it.

The Board of Supervisors gets a sales pitch from the vendor.
The sheriff, at a later date, gets a heads up from the FBI.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3486 on: November 30, 2021, 06:10:42 PM »
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3487 on: November 30, 2021, 06:26:51 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on November 30, 2021, 02:01:36 PM
Any evidence that the source of the funding influenced the authors thinking?

Any thoughts on the actual substance of the article?

"We may never know the origin of Covid-19. The lack of hard facts precludes certainty and the knowledge gaps will probably not now be filled."

"The debate is between the natural-origin and lab-leak theories, and it is becoming increasingly sterile and ever-more vicious."

"One positive outcome is that lab-leak theory has refocused the world’s virologists on an important scientific topic: gain-of-function research."

"Any remaining ambiguities in how gain-of-function research is defined, conducted and regulated need definitive resolutions. The risks of triggering a new human pandemic must be clearly understood and respected. We must satisfy the public that our work benefits society and does not threaten it."


1. The unpublished data is needed. China won't release it. Is that data that Daszak's colleagues in China were working on ?
2. The ever-more vicious debate is a result of the wall put up by Fauci and the media to promote the zoonotic origin.
3. Gain of function research needs to be appropriately monitored. There appear to be failures at many levels in the Wuhan research. The author's 'you can trust us and China has learned its lesson' isn't quite enough to accept his 'let's move on' request.
4. ". The risks of triggering a new human pandemic must be clearly understood and respected. " Talk to Daszak, and his colleagues in China, about that.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1463673517501816840

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3488 on: November 30, 2021, 07:07:53 PM »
Quote from: Mn on November 30, 2021, 06:26:51 PM
1. The unpublished data is needed. China won't release it. Is that data that Daszak's colleagues in China were working on ?
2. The ever-more vicious debate is a result of the wall put up by Fauci and the media to promote the zoonotic origin.
3. Gain of function research needs to be appropriately monitored. There appear to be failures at many levels in the Wuhan research. The author's 'you can trust us and China has learned its lesson' isn't quite enough to accept his 'let's move on' request.
4. ". The risks of triggering a new human pandemic must be clearly understood and respected. " Talk to Daszak, and his colleagues in China, about that.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1463673517501816840

Your source is Hans Mahncke, the guy who co-hosts the show Truth Over News on Epoch TV?   
https://www.theepochtimes.com/author-hans-mahncke

He’s a right-wing nutjob. 
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3489 on: November 30, 2021, 08:26:11 PM »
Quote from: alum74 on November 30, 2021, 07:07:53 PM
Your source is Hans Mahncke, the guy who co-hosts the show Truth Over News on Epoch TV?   
https://www.theepochtimes.com/author-hans-mahncke

He’s a right-wing nutjob. 

Lol.
The right wing nut job posts a 2016 video clip of Daszak talking about his colleagues in China, spike proteins, human cells and a pathogenic virus.
Nothing to see here.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3490 on: November 30, 2021, 08:50:19 PM »
Epoch Times is a joke.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3491 on: November 30, 2021, 09:17:52 PM »
Quote from: Mn on November 30, 2021, 06:26:51 PM


https://twitter.com/i/status/1463673517501816840

The comments are interesting.

" He talks about experiments with virus pseudoparticles.  These are artificial constructs which can attach to and enter cells, but can’t replicate.  Routinely used to study virus attachment and entry.  Perfectly safe."
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« Reply #3492 on: November 30, 2021, 09:21:19 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on November 30, 2021, 09:17:52 PM
The comments are interesting.

" He talks about experiments with virus pseudoparticles.  These are artificial constructs which can attach to and enter cells, but can’t replicate.  Routinely used to study virus attachment and entry.  Perfectly safe."
And Daszak talks about pathogenicity, which would not be perfectly safe.
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« Reply #3493 on: November 30, 2021, 09:43:18 PM »
"look, I am very skeptical of WIV and EcoHealth and i suspect shenanigans. However this clip does not say what you think it does.They were making pseudoviruses with spikes from bat viruses to assess the ability of bat viruses to infect humans. Pseudoviruses are not dangerous."
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3494 on: November 30, 2021, 10:02:23 PM »
We should totally take their word for it. How do you guys decide who to believe and not to believe?
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