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WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3450 on: November 23, 2021, 02:55:35 PM »
Quote from: alum74 on November 23, 2021, 02:50:22 PM
What experts say about the best time to get a flu shot this year

"’What you should do is get it [flu shot] as soon as you can and in the most expeditious manner,’ Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, told CNN anchor Wolf Blitzer Monday.”
https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/28/health/flu-shot-influenza-covid-booster-2021-wellness/index.html

Yes, there will be a flu season this year, CDC says
https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/19/health/flu-season-starting-wellness/index.html

CDC expects flu season to be worse than last year
https://connecticut.news12.com/cdc-expects-flu-season-to-be-worse-than-last-year

Reduced Flu Shot Rates Raise Concerns at the U.S. CDC
https://www.precisionvaccinations.com/reduced-flu-shot-rates-raise-concerns-us-cdc

This is Alum at his best....
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3451 on: November 23, 2021, 02:56:04 PM »
Quote from: Mn on November 23, 2021, 02:53:11 PM
Actually, I think you're a little off on this one. We don't know what happened to the flu bug. It didn't show up last year and it's having trouble picking up much steam this year.
But in a typical year here, flu doesn't seem to start showing up much until right about now. Full blown flu season seems to be in December, January and February. I haven't seen anything that indicates the flu is here in any numbers yet.
I'm guessing most people wouldn't  be reading about Minnesota flu statistics unless they lived here.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3452 on: November 23, 2021, 02:58:32 PM »
Quote from: Mn on November 23, 2021, 02:40:54 PM
Damn 250 year old piece of paper getting in the way again.

Ehhh, maybe just a bit of overreach from what is in the OSHA enacting legislation....

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3453 on: November 23, 2021, 03:00:28 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on November 23, 2021, 02:54:54 PM
Do you really think it is the flu that is putting people in the hospitals?
It does every year. It does worse than that too.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3454 on: November 23, 2021, 03:01:39 PM »
I'm no attorney, but I found this article helpful:

Biden’s Covid vaccine mandate will likely go to the Supreme Court. Here’s how the courts have ruled before
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/18/bidens-vaccine-mandate-will-likely-go-to-the-supreme-court-heres-how-the-courts-have-ruled-before.html
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3455 on: November 23, 2021, 03:03:31 PM »
Quote from: Mn on November 23, 2021, 03:00:28 PM
It does every year. It does worse than that too.

Not right now....as you just typed.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3456 on: November 23, 2021, 03:12:35 PM »
Quote from: alum74 on November 23, 2021, 03:01:39 PM
I'm no attorney, but I found this article helpful:

Biden’s Covid vaccine mandate will likely go to the Supreme Court. Here’s how the courts have ruled before
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/18/bidens-vaccine-mandate-will-likely-go-to-the-supreme-court-heres-how-the-courts-have-ruled-before.html

I think you are going to be disappointed....the examples cited in that article are far different from an administrative agency enacting an emergency rule as wide as this one is. This is about administrative rulemaking and goes beyond mandating shields on workplace cutting devices so that workers don't get their fingers cutoff. 

"Prior to the pandemic, the agency had not issued an emergency standard since 1983. The courts have halted or overturned four of the 10 emergency standards issued by OSHA prior to the vaccination requirements. A fifth was partially vacated."
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3457 on: November 23, 2021, 03:29:47 PM »
Quote from: Mn on November 23, 2021, 03:00:28 PM
It does every year. It does worse than that too.
Does it matter, if the prevention and abatement protocols are the same, which airborne respiratory virus we're talking about?
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3458 on: November 23, 2021, 05:31:05 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on November 23, 2021, 03:12:35 PM
I think you are going to be disappointed....the examples cited in that article are far different from an administrative agency enacting an emergency rule as wide as this one is. This is about administrative rulemaking and goes beyond mandating shields on workplace cutting devices so that workers don't get their fingers cutoff. 

"Prior to the pandemic, the agency had not issued an emergency standard since 1983. The courts have halted or overturned four of the 10 emergency standards issued by OSHA prior to the vaccination requirements. A fifth was partially vacated."

I have no dog in this fight. 

The article, particularly the last part as you pointed out, helped me understand that fast-tracking the vaccination requirements through the OSHA emergency standard process may not be looked favorably upon by the courts.   
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3459 on: November 23, 2021, 09:24:01 PM »
Quote from: alum74 on November 23, 2021, 03:01:39 PM
I'm no attorney, but I found this article helpful:

Biden’s Covid vaccine mandate will likely go to the Supreme Court. Here’s how the courts have ruled before
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/18/bidens-vaccine-mandate-will-likely-go-to-the-supreme-court-heres-how-the-courts-have-ruled-before.html

I'll go along with a vaccine mandate if I'm allowed to sue the company if we get bad side effects from it

until then, go fuck yourself
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3460 on: November 23, 2021, 09:27:18 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on November 23, 2021, 02:54:54 PM
Do you really think it is the flu that is putting people in the hospitals?

no you fucking idiot
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3461 on: November 23, 2021, 09:27:47 PM »
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3462 on: November 23, 2021, 09:28:49 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on November 23, 2021, 09:24:01 PM
I'll go along with a vaccine mandate if I'm allowed to sue the company if we get bad side effects from it

until then, go fuck yourself

SCOTUS long ago found  vaccine mandates legal.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3463 on: November 24, 2021, 07:56:58 AM »
A truck driver with a truck load of anomalies crosses the border before the vaccine mandate.
" President Biden will require essential, nonresident travelers crossing U.S. land borders, such as truck drivers, to be fully vaccinated beginning on Jan. 22 - AP"

The driver’s manifest indicated his truck contained auto body parts, but “anomalies” were detected in the trailer.
More than 17,500 pounds (7,930 kilograms) of meth and 389 pounds (176 kilograms) of fentanyl were discovered last Thursday hidden inside a tractor-trailer at the Otay Mesa Port of Entry in San Diego, according to a statement from the U.S. Attorney’s Office.
The seizures are the largest of either drug in the U.S. for both 2020 and 2021, the statement said."
https://ktla.com/news/california/trucker-arrested-in-record-breaking-drug-bust-at-california-mexico-border/
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3464 on: November 28, 2021, 08:30:36 AM »
Booster shot + drinking many beers watching NU and WI lose = world of hurt this AM
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