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WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2520 on: July 27, 2021, 06:35:29 AM »
Edward C. Holmes mentions the CCP delaying release of the genome. Co-authors the Proximal Origin op-ed.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1419786558530482180



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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2521 on: July 27, 2021, 07:46:36 AM »
Quote from: Mn on July 27, 2021, 06:35:29 AM
Edward C. Holmes mentions the CCP delaying release of the genome. Co-authors the Proximal Origin op-ed.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1419786558530482180


He delayed it for a week after trying to get the Commies to formally release it? Do I have that right?
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2522 on: July 27, 2021, 08:50:28 AM »
The review paper says: “There is no evidence that any early cases had any connection to the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV), in contrast to the clear epidemiological links to animal markets in Wuhan, nor evidence that the WIV possessed or worked on a progenitor of SARS-CoV-2 prior to the pandemic.”

Rather, it argues that “there is substantial body of scientific evidence supporting a zoonotic origin for SARS-CoV-2”.

"21 eminent scientists from universities and research institutes around the world"
https://www.sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/2021/07/08/biologists-publish-review-sars-cov-2-origin-evidence-edward-holmes.html
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2523 on: July 27, 2021, 09:38:49 AM »
Quote from: illiniray on July 26, 2021, 04:44:38 PM
Science is hard.

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/07/scicheck-fauci-and-paul-round-2/



And Jessica McDonald writes about "baseless conspiracy theories" regarding the lab leak hypothesis on Feb 7, 2020.
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/02/baseless-conspiracy-theories-claim-new-coronavirus-was-bioengineered/

McDonald's 'fact check' is a week after Kristian Andersen is involved in emails with Jeremy Farrar and Fauci on Jan 31, 2020 that he, among others, finds the genome inconsistent with evolutionary theory.
Are Eddie and Bob first names for Edward Holmes and Robert McGarry?


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It sure didn't take long for the baseless conspiracy theory narrative to begin.


 
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2524 on: July 27, 2021, 09:49:38 AM »
So, Mn, are you wondering if this COVID is man made or if it just escaped from the lab?
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2525 on: July 27, 2021, 10:02:35 AM »
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2526 on: July 27, 2021, 10:16:01 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on July 27, 2021, 09:49:38 AM
So, Mn, are you wondering if this COVID is man made or if it just escaped from the lab?
No idea. Man made or an escape are not necessarily either/or. Man made in the name of science and a subsequential accidental escape seems possible.
We were funding research being done in a bio level 2 lab, tho WIV is a bio level 4 lab, that is in a country with no transparency and in a lab that may very well have been doing biowarfare research. 4 million are dead world wide.
If this was biowarfare research, the world needs to know last year. Better yet, 2 years ago.
If this was an accidental leak, we were warned in 2018 that safety was lax. There has been a very concerted effort to label a lab leak hypothesis as a baseless conspiracy theory.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2527 on: July 27, 2021, 10:25:21 AM »
'The virus was bioengineered' is still a baseless conspiracy theory.

It is remotely plausible they isolated a naturally occurring virus in the lab and it "escaped," but that is unlikely.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2528 on: July 27, 2021, 10:43:43 AM »
"Following the publication of the Fauci emails, Roger Pielke Jr., a professor of environmental studies at University of Colorado Boulder, asked Andersen on Twitter to explain what "all find the genome inconsistent with expectations from evolutionary theory" means in layman's terms.

Andersen replied: "it specifically means we thought—on preliminary look—that the virus could have been engineered and/or manipulated. Turns out the data suggest otherwise—which is the conclusion of our paper."
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/fauci-emails-kristian-andersen-scientist-defends-article-debunking-lab-leak-hypothesis-1596727%3famp=1
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2529 on: July 27, 2021, 10:49:29 AM »
In a separate tweet Andersen wrote: "As I have said many times, we seriously considered a lab leak a possibility. However, significant new data, extensive analyses and many discussions led to the conclusions in our paper.

"What the email shows is a clear example of the scientific process."

"A key tenet of science is evaluating one's beliefs based on the latest empirical evidence. This explains, for instance, why messaging around masking changed during the pandemic."
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2530 on: July 27, 2021, 11:25:37 AM »
I'm going to wait to hear what the intelligence community says. If there was a lot of evidence of it being man made and/or escaped from the lab pre-Biden election, we would have heard it from Trump.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2531 on: July 27, 2021, 11:52:17 AM »
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2532 on: July 27, 2021, 12:17:31 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on July 27, 2021, 11:52:17 AM
why do you hate minorities so much, very racist, not nice!

If they act like idiots, they are idiots.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2533 on: July 27, 2021, 01:13:21 PM »
FYI (for Pthey) this is a joke

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2534 on: July 27, 2021, 01:17:52 PM »
Too long to get to the alleged punchline.
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