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WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2130 on: May 19, 2021, 09:07:24 AM »
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2131 on: May 19, 2021, 10:03:07 AM »
Bikes are a fantastic way to get around town.

Yep. Of course not for everybody, but a great way to explore your community at your own pace, stop for a coffee on the way to work, get some exercise and check out new places on your way home.     

People who bike can also be good for local businesses.   
https://momentummag.com/how-bicycles-bring-business/

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2132 on: May 19, 2021, 11:51:41 AM »
Sounds like you will go splat on someone's windshield soon too. Darwinism at its best.

I understand the concept of a Yield sign and what that implies, it appears you do not.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2133 on: May 19, 2021, 11:58:35 AM »
I understand the concept of a Yield sign and what that implies, it appears you do not.

I hope you do. But it sure as hell does not sound like you do, based on your comments here. However, you look like you can bike pretty fast based on Gelato's video. So, you have that going for you.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2134 on: May 19, 2021, 12:15:32 PM »
Back to the topic at hand, California is down to 3 cases per 100k, and the three major metros SF/LA/SJ are at 2/100k

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2135 on: May 19, 2021, 12:18:52 PM »
I hope you do. But it sure as hell does not sound like you do, based on your comments here. However, you look like you can bike pretty fast based on Gelato's video. So, you have that going for you.

This seems to be just trolling at this point, but Mr Jahn did not treat the stop sign like a yield, if he had, he would have yielded to the traffic which had the right of way and still be with us today. Under current Illinois law, he would be guilty of failing to stop at a stop sign, if the Idaho Stop was in place he'd be guilty of failing to yield. The Idaho Stop law doesn't allow you to fail to yield, nor does physics.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2136 on: May 19, 2021, 12:45:36 PM »
This seems to be just trolling at this point, but Mr Jahn did not treat the stop sign like a yield, if he had, he would have yielded to the traffic which had the right of way and still be with us today. Under current Illinois law, he would be guilty of failing to stop at a stop sign, if the Idaho Stop was in place he'd be guilty of failing to yield. The Idaho Stop law doesn't allow you to fail to yield, nor does physics.

That is the point: He, like virtually all cyclists, treated the stop sign as a yield and just rolled right through without looking.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2137 on: May 19, 2021, 01:07:47 PM »
That is the point: He, like virtually all cyclists, treated the stop sign as a yield and just rolled right through without looking.

You're still trolling, right? Or do you not know what the word yield means? If there is oncoming traffic, rolling through implies you didn't treat it like a yield...

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2138 on: May 19, 2021, 02:30:43 PM »
Most cyclists I’ve seen at stop-controlled intersections (as a motorist, pedal-pusher and pedestrian) have slowed down and looked both ways before rolling through a stop sign.  When cross-traffic was present, most came to a complete stop and waited for their turn.

I like the Idaho Stop approach, which allows cyclists to treat stop signs as yield signs.  Cyclists have a sense of perception about what’s going on around them.  They’re not encased in a vehicle.  They can see more to the right, to the left and they’re fairly agile.

Studies in Idaho and Delaware have shown significant decreases in crashes at intersections after passage of the stop-as-yield laws.   
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idaho_stop

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2139 on: May 19, 2021, 03:47:00 PM »
You're still trolling, right? Or do you not know what the word yield means? If there is oncoming traffic, rolling through implies you didn't treat it like a yield...

Oh brother...you do not get it. You bicycliists ignore Stop signs, Yield signs, signs that you are going to get run over, all the time. He treated the Stop sign like a Yield sign, but did not care or look (because he was a standard entitled bicyclist - redundant, I know), and went right through and went "splat".
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2140 on: May 19, 2021, 03:48:25 PM »
Most cyclists I’ve seen at stop-controlled intersections (as a motorist, pedal-pusher and pedestrian) have slowed down and looked both ways before rolling through a stop sign.  When cross-traffic was present, most came to a complete stop and waited for their turn.

I like the Idaho Stop approach, which allows cyclists to treat stop signs as yield signs.  Cyclists have a sense of perception about what’s going on around them.  They’re not encased in a vehicle.  They can see more to the right, to the left and they’re fairly agile.

Studies in Idaho and Delaware have shown significant decreases in crashes at intersections after passage of the stop-as-yield laws.   
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idaho_stop

Are Idaho and Delaware high density states?
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2141 on: May 19, 2021, 03:54:53 PM »
Are Idaho and Delaware high density states?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2142 on: May 19, 2021, 04:08:54 PM »
Oh brother...you do not get it. You bicycliists ignore Stop signs, Yield signs, signs that you are going to get run over, all the time. He treated the Stop sign like a Yield sign, but did not care or look (because he was a standard entitled bicyclist - redundant, I know), and went right through and went "splat".
You’re right that most cyclists treat stop signs as yield signs, but you’re missing the fact that he didn’t treat it as a yield sign. If he would have, he would have stopped. It appears that he ignored it altogether.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2143 on: May 19, 2021, 04:12:03 PM »
Bikes are a fantastic way to get around town.
In C/U, yes they are. I rode one everywhere when I was on campus. Until I let my roommate’s brother borrow it. He locked the front wheel to the bike rack instead of the bike frame. So then I had a wheel. Didn’t work as well for getting around town.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2144 on: May 19, 2021, 04:20:45 PM »
You’re right that most cyclists treat stop signs as yield signs, but you’re missing the fact that he didn’t treat it as a yield sign. If he would have, he would have stopped. It appears that he ignored it altogether.

C'mon guys. They all ignore Yield signs, ergo he treated it as a "Yield sign" like most bicyclists do.
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