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WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1575 on: March 04, 2021, 01:46:36 PM »
Quote from: fucking on February 11, 2021, 02:02:10 PM
Pure rot.

Thousands of extremely successful people are not just drunks, but McCokefiends (*sigh*), psychopaths and manic depressives.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1576 on: March 04, 2021, 07:08:22 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on March 04, 2021, 12:29:25 PM
Senate version eliminated the NY to Canda bridge and the south of SF mass transit that Trump supported.  All 50 Repubs still oppose, but Murkowski is wavering. Repubs now trying to slow it down with procedural tactics. Hope to delay it past expiration of unemployment etc and then blame Dems.
mass transit "south of SF" - a city of 800,000, instead of "in San Jose", a city of 1.3 million
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1577 on: March 04, 2021, 07:29:17 PM »
And from what I've read .. .
The parliamentarian is a non-partisan position, and that person determined that the train and the bridge funding are not eligible legislation for bills passed via reconciliation.
They need to go thru the regular 60 vote for passage process.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1578 on: March 04, 2021, 07:37:00 PM »
Quote from: Mn on March 04, 2021, 07:29:17 PM
And from what I've read .. .
The parliamentarian is a non-partisan position, and that person determined that the train and the bridge funding are not eligible legislation for bills passed via reconciliation.
They need to go thru the regular 60 vote for passage process.

This makes me even more sure it was just a stunt to begin with. I don't quite understand to what end, though
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1579 on: March 04, 2021, 07:40:02 PM »
Repubs were calling it Pelosi's train and Schumer's bridge. Even though Trump supported both.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1580 on: March 05, 2021, 04:34:33 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on March 04, 2021, 07:40:02 PM
Repubs were calling it Pelosi's train and Schumer's bridge. Even though Trump supported both.
Trump probably had no idea what either of them were. But it's Ro Khanna's train and Stefanik's bridge
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1581 on: March 15, 2021, 07:00:30 AM »
Those ones that bind to human cells in the lab, do they bind to pangolin cells in wet markets too ?


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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1582 on: March 18, 2021, 12:36:17 PM »
Some Long Haul COVID Patients Are Feeling Better After Vaccination

“Some people who've been laid low for months by so-called ‘long haul’ symptoms after a coronavirus infection say that within days of getting their COVID-19 vaccine, those symptoms nearly disappeared.”

“Speaking with The New York Times, Bridget Hayward, a 51-year-old operating room nurse in Alexandria, Va., said that for nearly a year after first becoming infected with SARS-CoV-2, she's had a slew of devastating symptoms. They've included persistent body aches, fatigue, a feeling of being hot even in cool weather, and a ‘brain fog’ that rendered remembering even simple words difficult.”

"’It was horrifying," she told the newspaper. ‘It was awful thinking it may never get better, like 'Is this my new normal, am I now damaged this way?'"

“But then, just one day after her first dose of the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine, everything changed.”

"’It was like, click, everything is fine,’ she said. Her body temperature has normalized and ‘it felt like a darkness lifted.’"

“Anecdotal cases like this are popping up around the United States, elating patients and puzzling most experts.”
https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2021-03-17/some-long-haul-covid-patients-are-feeling-better-after-vaccination

Fingers crossed that this will be more than anecdote/wishful thinking.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1583 on: March 18, 2021, 12:40:22 PM »
its almost like she got cured of her media induced anxiety once she got the vaccine...
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1584 on: March 18, 2021, 12:45:53 PM »
Quote from: alum74 on March 18, 2021, 12:36:17 PM
Some Long Haul COVID Patients Are Feeling Better After Vaccination

“Some people who've been laid low for months by so-called ‘long haul’ symptoms after a coronavirus infection say that within days of getting their COVID-19 vaccine, those symptoms nearly disappeared.”

“Speaking with The New York Times, Bridget Hayward, a 51-year-old operating room nurse in Alexandria, Va., said that for nearly a year after first becoming infected with SARS-CoV-2, she's had a slew of devastating symptoms. They've included persistent body aches, fatigue, a feeling of being hot even in cool weather, and a ‘brain fog’ that rendered remembering even simple words difficult.”

"’It was horrifying," she told the newspaper. ‘It was awful thinking it may never get better, like 'Is this my new normal, am I now damaged this way?'"

“But then, just one day after her first dose of the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine, everything changed.”

"’It was like, click, everything is fine,’ she said. Her body temperature has normalized and ‘it felt like a darkness lifted.’"

“Anecdotal cases like this are popping up around the United States, elating patients and puzzling most experts.”
https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2021-03-17/some-long-haul-covid-patients-are-feeling-better-after-vaccination

Fingers crossed that this will be more than anecdote/wishful thinking.

Don't think that's how vaccines work, but good for her
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1585 on: March 18, 2021, 12:51:07 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on March 18, 2021, 12:40:22 PM
its almost like she got cured of her media induced anxiety once she got the vaccine...

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1586 on: March 18, 2021, 01:09:32 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on March 18, 2021, 12:40:22 PM
its almost like she got cured of her media induced anxiety once she got the vaccine...

The tragedy of long COVID
https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/the-tragedy-of-the-post-covid-long-haulers-2020101521173
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1587 on: March 18, 2021, 01:22:54 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on March 18, 2021, 12:45:53 PM
Don't think that's how vaccines work, but good for her

Here’s a little more context:

“Experts have indeed proposed the idea of a prospective study to see the impact of the vaccine on long-haulers. Akiko Iwasaki, PhD, of Yale University, tweeted that such a trial may be difficult, but is worth considering, given that it could potentially confirm vaccination as a therapy for long COVID.”

“In June, Iwasaki proposed three potential mechanisms for long COVID: a persistent viral reservoir; viral fragments or remnants that drive inflammation; or an autoimmune response induced by the infection. Many papers have since provided support for all three theories, she said, noting that they're not mutually exclusive.”

“It could be that vaccine-induced T-cell and antibody responses can eliminate the viral reservoir or the viral fragments/remnants, or that the vaccine somehow diverts autoimmune cells, she tweeted.”

“Vaccines could also help by stimulating the innate immune response, she said. That transient inflammation may divert leukocytes causing long COVID. But if that is indeed the case, she warned, any benefit from vaccines wouldn't be sustained long-term.”
https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/91476
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1588 on: March 18, 2021, 02:21:27 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on March 18, 2021, 12:40:22 PM
its almost like she got cured of her media induced anxiety once she got the vaccine...

Oh FFS....
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1589 on: March 18, 2021, 03:38:47 PM »
Quote from: alum74 on March 18, 2021, 01:22:54 PM
Here’s a little more context:

“Experts have indeed proposed the idea of a prospective study to see the impact of the vaccine on long-haulers. Akiko Iwasaki, PhD, of Yale University, tweeted that such a trial may be difficult, but is worth considering, given that it could potentially confirm vaccination as a therapy for long COVID.”

“In June, Iwasaki proposed three potential mechanisms for long COVID: a persistent viral reservoir; viral fragments or remnants that drive inflammation; or an autoimmune response induced by the infection. Many papers have since provided support for all three theories, she said, noting that they're not mutually exclusive.”

“It could be that vaccine-induced T-cell and antibody responses can eliminate the viral reservoir or the viral fragments/remnants, or that the vaccine somehow diverts autoimmune cells, she tweeted.”

“Vaccines could also help by stimulating the innate immune response, she said. That transient inflammation may divert leukocytes causing long COVID. But if that is indeed the case, she warned, any benefit from vaccines wouldn't be sustained long-term.”
https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/91476

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