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WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1530 on: February 27, 2021, 01:05:27 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on February 27, 2021, 12:19:03 PM
I'll go out on a limb and say it is not all that he claims it is....
The PCR test detects Covid RNA. In other words, it detects whether you have Covid viruses at the test location. The false positive rate is pretty much zero.

The only way a positive PCR test can be a misdiagnosed flu case is if the patient has both Covid and the flu.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1531 on: February 27, 2021, 04:05:57 PM »
Quote from: Miniditka on February 27, 2021, 01:05:27 PM
The PCR test detects Covid RNA. In other words, it detects whether you have Covid viruses at the test location. The false positive rate is pretty much zero.

The only way a positive PCR test can be a misdiagnosed flu case is if the patient has both Covid and the flu.

It detects both minute quantities of active and inactive RNA

The PCR test alone cannot answer the difference.

you can read more here https://www.cebm.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/PCRtestREFERENCE_Infectivity2020Nov5.pdf
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1532 on: February 27, 2021, 05:11:49 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on February 27, 2021, 04:05:57 PM
It detects both minute quantities of active and inactive RNA

The PCR test alone cannot answer the difference.

you can read more here https://www.cebm.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/PCRtestREFERENCE_Infectivity2020Nov5.pdf
The only relevant info in this article is that a PCR test could show a positive result for up to 10 or so days after the Covid virus becomes inactive.

That can’t possibly account for a 98% reduction in flu cases. It’s just not possible that everyone who was hospitalized with the flu also contracted Covid within the 2-3 weeks prior.

Just face it: masks and social distancing work, and the brilliant scientists who study this stuff for a living know more about this than Dr. Infowars or whomever you get your cockamamie theories from.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1533 on: February 28, 2021, 08:00:23 AM »
"Dr. Infowars" would be a good mult.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1534 on: March 02, 2021, 03:05:27 PM »
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1535 on: March 02, 2021, 03:59:42 PM »
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1536 on: March 02, 2021, 04:24:41 PM »
Quote from: Custard on February 26, 2021, 07:53:35 PM
Yet incredibly a month and a half ago the Bay Area was in a major surge and the ICU availability was 0.7%. Was this universal dutiful behavior you describe part of the response to that major surge? What were people doing leading up the surge? Holiday parties perhaps?
San Francisco 7 day average for cases - 6/100k
The only state with better numbers than SF is Hawaii.

The other Bay Area counties top out at 12.

This said, there will be a spike because yeah, the outdoor dining is in full force coupled with record high temperatures. The science on outdoor dining sort of gets thrown out the window when downtown MV looks like NOLA on Mardi Gras
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1537 on: March 02, 2021, 05:08:31 PM »
I’m sure it’ll work out
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1538 on: March 03, 2021, 07:54:09 AM »
Whittling away at the Covid relief bill that has little to do with Covid.
First it was the $15 minimum wage,
Now It's Pelosi's train.
Take another $1 trillion out, and the bill would be about Covid relief. And with the vaccines doing their part, maybe the Covid relief bill could actually be about Covid relief.


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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1539 on: March 03, 2021, 09:20:07 AM »
Quote from: Mn on March 03, 2021, 07:54:09 AM
Whittling away at the Covid relief bill that has little to do with Covid.
First it was the $15 minimum wage,
Now It's Pelosi's train.
Take another $1 trillion out, and the bill would be about Covid relief. And with the vaccines doing their part, maybe the Covid relief bill could actually be about Covid relief.



only 9% of the original 1.9 trillion dollar bill was actually going to help relieve people... rest was crony government/corporate multi billion dollar slush funds
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1540 on: March 03, 2021, 09:59:10 AM »
Quote from: Mn on March 03, 2021, 07:54:09 AM
Whittling away at the Covid relief bill that has little to do with Covid.
First it was the $15 minimum wage,
Now It's Pelosi's train.
Take another $1 trillion out, and the bill would be about Covid relief. And with the vaccines doing their part, maybe the Covid relief bill could actually be about Covid relief.


They definitely need to cut a lot of shit in this bill, and $15 minimum wage is just not happening.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1541 on: March 03, 2021, 11:01:00 AM »
Quote from: Mn on March 03, 2021, 07:54:09 AM
Whittling away at the Covid relief bill that has little to do with Covid.
First it was the $15 minimum wage,
Now It's Pelosi's train.
Take another $1 trillion out, and the bill would be about Covid relief. And with the vaccines doing their part, maybe the Covid relief bill could actually be about Covid relief.



Pelosi's train? There are 4 congressional districts in between Pelosi's district and the BART San Jose to Santa Clara extension. Which - by the way, shouldn't happen, once BART gets to San Jose there is a current rail system in place, BART would just be duplicative and that segment would be a waste of money. That's not why it got removed, but sometimes you get lucky.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1542 on: March 03, 2021, 11:03:45 AM »
Quote from: Miniditka on March 03, 2021, 09:59:10 AM
They definitely need to cut a lot of shit in this bill, and $15 minimum wage is just not happening.
The irony being that if we raised the minimum wage to $15, those workers would no longer qualify for some federal programs, food stamps/medicare/etc... saving the federal government money.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1543 on: March 03, 2021, 11:28:26 AM »
I read an article this morning, which reported that households in the U.S., China, UK, Japan and larger EU nations socked away money during the pandemic.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-03-03/global-economic-recovery-will-be-driven-by-2-9-trillion-that-consumers-saved?srnd=politics-vp&sref=nXmOg68r

Not all of us need the stimulus, but many people do.  What we need right now for certain is a floor for Americans economically impacted by the pandemic.  Keep people from being thrown out of the street, make sure they have food on the table.  There is a role for the federal government, but good policy dictates a targeted solution.

Work on infrastructure next. 
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1544 on: March 03, 2021, 01:32:05 PM »
Quote from: Mn on March 03, 2021, 07:54:09 AM
Whittling away at the Covid relief bill that has little to do with Covid.
First it was the $15 minimum wage,
Now It's Pelosi's train.
Take another $1 trillion out, and the bill would be about Covid relief. And with the vaccines doing their part, maybe the Covid relief bill could actually be about Covid relief.



This one from a guy I've worked with on various advocacy projects

https://twitter.com/acnetj/status/1367020804324556801
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