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WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4380 on: February 07, 2022, 11:21:29 AM »
They like to talk about about the survival rate of covid. Well, if we only look at murders; the survival rate for riding the subway in NYC is roughly 99.99999999985%.

If we include accidents; it is still about 99.9999999985%. Yet, the right wing media would have us believe crime on the subways is rampant; while covid is a minor inconvenience.

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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4381 on: February 07, 2022, 12:29:14 PM »
There is so much wrong with this clip.

First off, the study he cites wasn’t conducted by epidemiologists, wasn’t peer-reviewed, and isn’t supported by JHU as he insinuates.

Secondly, kids may not be dying at a lower rate, but kids can still catch and spread Covid.

Thirdly, children are very adaptable and resilient. There’s no real credence that they are being harmed or stunted by masks. My kid’s first two years of school were spent wearing masks, and he probably won’t even remember wearing them when he’s 20.

Maher has become a bad joke.

Oh, and I almost forgot the lie that the lockdowns didn’t save lives or do any good. Sure, we didn’t flatten the curve liked we’d hoped, but probably 1-2 million lives were saved over letting it run rampant. And hospitals were at least able to remain functional. Imagine if there had been 3x the cases.

Just so much garbage coming out of his mouth.

Yep.  Bill Maher has a long history of peddling denialism and pseudoscience across a broad range of scientific topics, including vaccines, AIDS and GMOs.
https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/five-years-on-bill-maher-is-still-an-antivaccine-crank-and-proves-it-yet-again/

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/when-antivaccine-pseudoscience-isnt-enough-bill-maher-embraces-goat-milk-hiv-quackery/

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/but-not-simpler/argumentum-ad-monsantum-bill-maher-and-the-lure-of-a-liberal-logical-fallacy/

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4382 on: February 07, 2022, 12:40:15 PM »
Interesting that you cite an actual liberal media source. The Jacobin views Bernie Sanders as too far to the right.

The writer starts off with a Tucker Carlson defense of Rogan. Then he practically parrots Fox News talking points. He exaggerages or  accepts without challenge alleged inconsistencies in the official covid story; which he attributes to politics.

"Jacobin is a democratic socialist quarterly magazine based in New York offering American leftist perspectives on politics, economics, and culture."
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/jacobin/

"Branko Marcetic is a Jacobin staff writer and the author of Yesterday's Man: The Case Against Joe Biden"
https://jacobinmag.com/author/branko-marcetic

Cognitive dissonance ?!? Maybe when the far right and far left are coming to same conclusions it’s time to wake up and see you’ve been fed a bunch of BS and you swallowed it hook line and sinker !
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4383 on: February 07, 2022, 12:45:37 PM »
They like to talk about about the survival rate of covid. Well, if we only look at murders; the survival rate for riding the subway in NYC is roughly 99.99999999985%.

If we include accidents; it is still about 99.9999999985%. Yet, the right wing media would have us believe crime on the subways is rampant; while covid is a minor inconvenience.

You always make straw men by portraying the right as some sort of monolith. Per NBC, felony assaults in NYC rose by 21% last year. People are dying from Covid. They’re both problems and deserve to be talked about !
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4384 on: February 07, 2022, 12:46:43 PM »
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4385 on: February 07, 2022, 02:00:14 PM »
You always make straw men by portraying the right as some sort of monolith.

Seems ironic in light of this thread....eh, why do I bother?
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4386 on: February 07, 2022, 02:15:29 PM »
Cognitive dissonance ?!? Maybe when the far right and far left are coming to same conclusions it’s time to wake up and see you’ve been fed a bunch of BS and you swallowed it hook line and sinker !

Or maybe when the far-right and far-left meet it’s because they’ve bonked heads as we complete the circle.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4387 on: February 08, 2022, 12:04:17 AM »
Oh look how quickly they turn on their own as soon as someone speaks out against the establishment !

For some, it is about what is true, not who is right.

Traditionally, it is the right that respects authority and the left that rebels.

Maher has always been rebellious.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4388 on: February 08, 2022, 12:14:53 AM »
My three predecessors are correct.

Judy and Q aren't right-wingers. They're dumb and crazy, respectively.

I don't think there's any major hub/home for American conservatism, except the portion of Democratic party that doesn't think redistributing wealth will change everything for the better.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4389 on: February 08, 2022, 12:15:17 AM »
You always make straw men by portraying the right as some sort of monolith. Per NBC, felony assaults in NYC rose by 21% last year. People are dying from Covid. They’re both problems and deserve to be talked about !

If you don't think the right wing media are hyping crime and downplaying covid; then you are not paying attention.
One way they downplay is to focus exclusively on deaths.

 I simply did the same thing with crime. It's called irony / satire / sarcasm. There is obviously more to subway crime than the headline grabbing murders. There is also more to covid than deaths.

The right accuses the left of scaring us with covid while they scare with us with crime. And vice versa.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4390 on: February 08, 2022, 01:04:17 AM »
In my view, the right wing has been taken over  nationalists / neomercantalists, some blantant, some posing as libertarians. They have displaced the traditional conservative globalists and socalled neoconservatives.

The idiots at Fox are crying that the liberals are trying to federalize elections. Apparently, they forgot about the 14th, 15th, 17th, 19th, 23rd, 24th, and 26th amendments?
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4391 on: February 08, 2022, 02:56:15 PM »
In my view, the right wing has been taken over  nationalists / neomercantalists, some blantant, some posing as libertarians. They have displaced the traditional conservative globalists and socalled neoconservatives.

The idiots at Fox are crying that the liberals are trying to federalize elections. Apparently, they forgot about the 14th, 15th, 17th, 19th, 23rd, 24th, and 26th amendments?

I'm more of an Occam's razor guy. The Trumps and DeSantises aren't nationals, neomercantalists, etc... they are just grifters who found an easy target.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4392 on: February 12, 2022, 12:02:05 AM »
Rogan and Peterson and Maher and Elon are catching flak because they’re over the target !
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4393 on: February 12, 2022, 10:09:20 AM »
I'm more of an Occam's razor guy. The Trumps and DeSantises aren't nationals, neomercantalists, etc... they are just grifters who found an easy target.

I am more of a pragmatist. Pulling conservatism in a populist nationalist direction has real life effects, regardless  of their motivation; which can only be assumed. Given their nationalist and neo-mercantalist policies; whether they are grifters or not is moot. 

Never thouht much of Occam's razor anyway. As commonly misunderstood, it probably belongs in the dustbin with Einstein's alleged definition of insanity.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4394 on: February 14, 2022, 07:42:25 AM »
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