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WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2460 on: July 08, 2021, 11:39:35 AM »
Quote from: Mn on July 08, 2021, 07:19:05 AM
And in the real world ...

"George Gao, the head of the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention, acknowledged the poor efficacy of China’s vaccines at a conference in April, in what seemed to be an unintentional dissent from the party line."
https://www.forbes.com/sites/roberthart/2021/06/17/chinas-sinovac-vaccine-under-scrutiny-as-covid-soars-in-highly-vaccinated-countries/?sh=126332b41444

The genetic sequence wasn't released until Jan 2020.
But we better keep looking for that pangolin, because in theory if the virus was engineered there would have been an appropriate vaccine developed beforehand.

Huh?
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2461 on: July 08, 2021, 12:55:18 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on July 08, 2021, 11:39:35 AM
Huh?
I think Murph is saying that with mRNA, in theory the vaccine can be developed and then a virus can be engineered to be inactivated by the vaccine.
Given that theory, I suppose the CCP would have developed an effective vaccine before those sneaky engineered viruses walked out the door of the lab.
Or because there was no vaccine developed, then the lab leak hypothesis must be a conspiracy theory and we need to keep looking for that zoonotic host.

I'm not sure there was much 'we developed a vaccine and now we're going to engineer a disease' going on with coronavirus. Especially since I haven't seen one mention of a vaccine being in development pre-pandemic.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2462 on: July 08, 2021, 12:58:40 PM »
mRNA vaccines have been in development for 30 years.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2463 on: July 08, 2021, 01:36:21 PM »
Lab leak hypothesis seems to cover a few possibilities:

Sars-CoV-2 originated in nature. A sample that was collected from a bat or other animal  escaped from the lab.

Sars-CoV-2 was accidentally created in the lab via gain of function research.

The virus was intentionally created as a bioweapon.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2464 on: July 08, 2021, 02:17:30 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on July 08, 2021, 01:36:21 PM
Lab leak hypothesis seems to cover a few possibilities:

Sars-CoV-2 originated in nature. A sample that was collected from a bat or other animal  escaped from the lab.

Sars-CoV-2 was accidentally created in the lab via gain of function research.

The virus was intentionally created as a bioweapon.

To me, the argument for the first is that we have so many variants out there already. Nature is a damn fine engineer

But what exactly does a lab leak of a natural virus imply? It's not like the virus is King Kong, sitting there in chains. We have tons of MAGAts out there complaining about masks, that the likelihood of getting COVID is very small, etc.

If they had an aerosol can full of air with a bunch of COVID and sprayed it around outside the door of the lab, it's not like it would then be running wild.

Perhaps the hypothesis is that one of the researchers had it isolated, aerosolized it, infected him or herself, at which point the virus took hold in that person's body and they spread it, basically becoming patient zero?
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2465 on: July 08, 2021, 03:30:03 PM »
2004 in Beijing. 2 researchers studying SARS became infected. 7 others caught it before it was contained.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2466 on: July 14, 2021, 11:48:40 PM »


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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2468 on: July 20, 2021, 11:26:47 AM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on July 14, 2021, 11:48:40 PM


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The key being that the people who were afraid of Antifa are also the people not afraid of COVID, so getting them to stay inside was a huge win
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2469 on: July 20, 2021, 12:05:41 PM »
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2471 on: July 22, 2021, 02:01:20 PM »
https://miami.cbslocal.com/2021/07/20/covid-south-florida-hospitalizations/

“We are seeing younger people, in their 20’s or 30’s, not many risk factors— not obese, not diabetic— coming in and very sick,” she says. “Some of them requiring potential lung transplants. So I really encourage everyone, young and old, to get vaccinated. This is no longer the disease of the very elderly or the nursing homes, this is affecting everyone regardless of race or age.”
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2472 on: July 22, 2021, 04:23:16 PM »
Why?
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2473 on: July 22, 2021, 04:25:25 PM »
Why are the right-wing organ grinders now on a pro-vaccine (well, at least not anti-vaccine) kick? Hannity, the NewsMax (or whatever the hell it is called) dude, etc. all coming out saying it is ok to be vaccinated. What's the deal?
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2474 on: July 22, 2021, 04:27:45 PM »
Quote from: Custard on July 22, 2021, 04:23:16 PM
Why?

Because they aren't vaccinated and getting the Delta variant and it is fucking them up. Read the article. Plenty of dumbass kids out there. I live with 2 of them. At least they are vaccinated.
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