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WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2445 on: July 07, 2021, 11:43:40 AM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on July 07, 2021, 10:45:50 AM
I find it amusing to believe the Chinese designed a virus without already having a vaccine ready.

That's an odd one. Especially since the Chinese vaccine doesn't appear to work very well.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2446 on: July 07, 2021, 12:10:03 PM »
I'm no virologist but I would assume the virus needs to be engineered before a vaccine to effectively combat it can be developed.
What happens if one of those sneaky little viruses walks out the door before the vaccine has been developed ?
Our State Dept was warned in 2018 of lax safety measures at the Wuhan lab.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2447 on: July 07, 2021, 12:52:10 PM »
Quote from: Mn on July 07, 2021, 12:10:03 PM
Our State Dept was warned in 2018 of lax safety measures at the Wuhan lab.

So you are saying Trump screwed up?
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2448 on: July 07, 2021, 01:12:04 PM »
Quote from: Mn on July 07, 2021, 12:10:03 PM
I'm no virologist but I would assume the virus needs to be engineered before a vaccine to effectively combat it can be developed.
What happens if one of those sneaky little viruses walks out the door before the vaccine has been developed ?
Our State Dept was warned in 2018 of lax safety measures at the Wuhan lab.

You should have stopped after the word "virologist."

And about those virologists investigating the origins of the coronavirus pandemic.  Unlike you, they will have to keep an open mind, question, and follow the evidence.   

No room for ideologically-driven speculation.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2449 on: July 07, 2021, 01:19:19 PM »
It's subtle, but that might have been the topmost idiocy in the board's history.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2450 on: July 07, 2021, 01:21:47 PM »
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2451 on: July 07, 2021, 01:34:35 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on July 07, 2021, 12:52:10 PM
So you are saying Trump screwed up?
You ask too many questions. 🤣
But that's a good thing.
I ain't gonna look into this, too busy but ......
The sequencing may be incorrect but I think Trump stopped the funding for a category of research that included the Wuhan lab.
The release of funding was restarted when parameters were agreed upon for oversight for that category.
The Wuhan funding did not meet the requirements, and the funds should not have been released.
I think the program oversight parameters are referred to as PS3, and PS3 was bypassed to release the funds.
I think all of this should be somewhere in the past several months of my posts.

Nonetheless, the email that you forwarded contains thoughts and ideas that should have been open to free discussion from day 1.



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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2452 on: July 07, 2021, 02:49:45 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on July 07, 2021, 11:42:42 AM
As the text notes, these were professionals who were scorned early on for what they said.

It was an email I received this morning.  I get the free emails from:

You’re on the free list for Persuasion. For the full experience, become a paying subscriber.

They are left-center and think AOC is a dumbass.

As a center leaning person I appreciated that article thanks
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2453 on: July 07, 2021, 03:33:53 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on July 07, 2021, 02:49:45 PM
As a center leaning person I appreciated that article thanks

Interesting stuff in there, but as I read it, I was thinking there was stuff they missed, like the working stiffs at the meat packing companies who got The COVID because their employers in Rickett's World did not think precautions needed to be taken and we wound up with meat shortages as a result.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2454 on: July 07, 2021, 08:44:03 PM »
Delta burning a path through Trump Country. Springfield MO looking great.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2455 on: July 07, 2021, 11:39:26 PM »
Quote from: fucking on July 07, 2021, 08:44:03 PM
Delta burning a path through Trump Country. Springfield MO looking great.

Yup. And we are still supposedly going to the Ozarks in 3 weeks
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2456 on: July 07, 2021, 11:41:58 PM »
Quote from: Mn on July 07, 2021, 12:10:03 PM
I'm no virologist but I would assume the virus needs to be engineered before a vaccine to effectively combat it can be developed.
What happens if one of those sneaky little viruses walks out the door before the vaccine has been developed ?
Our State Dept was warned in 2018 of lax safety measures at the Wuhan lab.

You're wrong.

With the mRNA technology, in theory you could design a vaccine *before* you design the actual virus. Whatever you are designing the virus to be, that genetic sequence would be known, and you would have the mRNA recipe that matches.

Granted U-Penn has the patents, but you all remind us how the Chinese are with respect to IP licensing.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2457 on: July 07, 2021, 11:47:26 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on July 07, 2021, 11:39:26 PM
Yup. And we are still supposedly going to the Ozarks in 3 weeks

That gives you time to knock off a hazmat suit.

Wear it to the Waffle House, for laughs.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2458 on: July 08, 2021, 12:01:14 AM »
Quote from: Mn on July 07, 2021, 12:10:03 PM
I'm no virologist but I would assume the virus needs to be engineered before a vaccine to effectively combat it can be developed.
What happens if one of those sneaky little viruses walks out the door before the vaccine has been developed ?
Our State Dept was warned in 2018 of lax safety measures at the Wuhan lab.

also: geneticist
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2459 on: July 08, 2021, 07:19:05 AM »
And in the real world ...

"George Gao, the head of the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention, acknowledged the poor efficacy of China’s vaccines at a conference in April, in what seemed to be an unintentional dissent from the party line."
https://www.forbes.com/sites/roberthart/2021/06/17/chinas-sinovac-vaccine-under-scrutiny-as-covid-soars-in-highly-vaccinated-countries/?sh=126332b41444

The genetic sequence wasn't released until Jan 2020.
But we better keep looking for that pangolin, because in theory if the virus was engineered there would have been an appropriate vaccine developed beforehand.
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