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WTF is wrong with Minnesota?

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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #780 on: January 17, 2026, 07:29:41 AM »
Quote from: Reacher on January 17, 2026, 07:14:48 AM
If you keep trying you may be able to get your head up your own ass a little further; but I doubt it.
You have no idea who said it.
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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #781 on: January 17, 2026, 08:17:31 AM »
Quote from: illiniray on January 16, 2026, 12:34:49 PM
https://x.com/i/status/2011581757313990977
A little more info about Patty O'Keefe.

https://minnesotareformer.com/2026/01/13/in-the-car-with-minneapolis-community-patrols/

ICE trackers tailing a federal law enforcement means there is a vehicle behind the federal law enforcement vehicle.
What happens when the federal law enforcement vehicle, with ICE trackers in a vehicle behind them, comes upon a vehicle blocking traffic ?
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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #782 on: January 17, 2026, 08:40:30 AM »
Quote from: Reacher on January 16, 2026, 07:13:03 PM
I remember when a picture with a woman on your lap on a boat was enough to end presidential bids.
Well, it took a little more than a picture but carry on.
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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #783 on: January 17, 2026, 08:43:00 AM »
Quote from: Reacher on January 16, 2026, 03:44:06 PM
So anytime an officer feels slightly threatened you can just shoot them in the face multiple times, even after they are no longer a threat. Don’t sign up for the job if you aren’t willing to assume risk.
Who did that ?

Did the person who was shot in the face several times tell you that she was no longer a threat ?
Did she tell anyone ?
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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #784 on: January 17, 2026, 09:40:07 AM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on January 17, 2026, 07:29:41 AM
You have no idea who said it.

That is the video taken by Jonathon Ross. It’s a near certainty that voice belongs to Jonathon Ross, and anyone who disagrees with that is being a disingenuous cunt. And likely a disingenuous fascist cunt.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #785 on: January 17, 2026, 09:41:26 AM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on January 17, 2026, 08:43:00 AM
Who did that ?

Did the person who was shot in the face several times tell you that she was no longer a threat ?
Did she tell anyone ?

The fact that his feet were to the side of the vehicle.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #786 on: January 17, 2026, 10:03:51 AM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on January 17, 2026, 08:17:31 AM
A little more info about Patty O'Keefe.

https://minnesotareformer.com/2026/01/13/in-the-car-with-minneapolis-community-patrols/

ICE trackers tailing a federal law enforcement means there is a vehicle behind the federal law enforcement vehicle.
What happens when the federal law enforcement vehicle, with ICE trackers in a vehicle behind them, comes upon a vehicle blocking traffic ?


That was kind of a long article. I didn't see anything that helps your cause or relates to the question.

"Following cars, making noise and filming law enforcement operations is legal, according to Tracy Roy of the Immigrant Law Center of Minnesota. Physically blocking ICE agents from making an arrest is not. (And getting arrested, Neubauer said, takes resources away from the movement, in addition to the high personal cost.)"
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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #787 on: January 17, 2026, 10:16:16 AM »
Quote from: Reacher on January 17, 2026, 09:41:26 AM
The fact that his feet were to the side of the vehicle.

Also, the driver was turning her steering wheel to the right indicating she was attempting to leave, not weaponizing her vehicle, not trying to run him over. This is visible in his own video

In addition, the vehicle's wheels were turned to the right, further indicating she was attempting to leave, not weaponizing her vehicle, not trying to run him over.

Since the agent had chosen to place himself in potential danger by taking a position in front of a running vehicle occupied by a driver, he was very much obligated to take note of these crucial details before making a decision to use deadly force.

We have pointed out the rules concerning shooting at and into a moving vehicle more than once.
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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #788 on: January 17, 2026, 11:43:20 AM »
Even Bill Kristol, one of the most central figures of the neoconservative movement of the Bush years, a guy who believes in fighting multiple wars on multiple fronts and spreading democracy at the point of a gun says "abolish ICE."

For the record, I don't wish to abolish ICE; but I'd like to see it shrunk to the size at which "it can be drowned in a bathtub."

https://x.com/i/status/2012522472063545404
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #789 on: January 17, 2026, 11:49:57 AM »
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #790 on: January 17, 2026, 01:12:47 PM »
Quote from: Reacher on January 17, 2026, 09:40:07 AM
That is the video taken by Jonathon Ross. It’s a near certainty that voice belongs to Jonathon Ross, and anyone who disagrees with that is being a disingenuous cunt. And likely a disingenuous fascist cunt.
You could have just said that you've talked with him and you recognize his voice.

I'm not aware of anyone else saying that is Ross talking.,
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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #791 on: January 17, 2026, 01:15:27 PM »
Quote from: Reacher on January 17, 2026, 09:41:26 AM
The fact that his feet were to the side of the vehicle.
She wasn't shot in the face 3 times tho.
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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #792 on: January 17, 2026, 01:23:35 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on January 17, 2026, 10:16:16 AM
Also, the driver was turning her steering wheel to the right indicating she was attempting to leave, not weaponizing her vehicle, not trying to run him over. This is visible in his own video

In addition, the vehicle's wheels were turned to the right, further indicating she was attempting to leave, not weaponizing her vehicle, not trying to run him over.

Since the agent had chosen to place himself in potential danger by taking a position in front of a running vehicle occupied by a driver, he was very much obligated to take note of these crucial details before making a decision to use deadly force.

We have pointed out the rules concerning shooting at and into a moving vehicle more than once.
You don't know what she was going to do.

I doubt if anybody knew she was going to block the street.
I doubt if anyone knew she was going to lay on her horn for a few minutes.
I doubt if her friend knew she was going to try to leave her behind.

But you say that the federal law enforcement officer should have known that she was just trying to flee because you're certain that was her intent.
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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #793 on: January 17, 2026, 01:30:03 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on January 17, 2026, 10:03:51 AM

That was kind of a long article. I didn't see anything that helps your cause or relates to the question.

"Following cars, making noise and filming law enforcement operations is legal, according to Tracy Roy of the Immigrant Law Center of Minnesota. Physically blocking ICE agents from making an arrest is not. (And getting arrested, Neubauer said, takes resources away from the movement, in addition to the high personal cost.)"
Try coordinating with friends to follow your local police for several days. Have somebody block traffic in front of the police car.
Hit the gas after the police tell you to get out of the car. But wait until you've got the opportunity to hit one of the officers.

Tell us how it goes.
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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #794 on: January 17, 2026, 01:31:00 PM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on January 17, 2026, 01:12:47 PM

I'm not aware of anyone else saying that is Ross talking.,

There are many things we are unaware of. Doesn't mean they don't exist

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According to video footage captured on his own cellphone during the January 7, 2026, fatal shooting in Minneapolis, an Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agent, identified as Jonathan Ross, can be heard uttering the phrase "fucking bitch" immediately after shooting 37-year-old Renee Nicole Good.

*Context of the Video: The video, which was reportedly leaked to a media outlet, shows the interaction from Ross's perspective. After firing three shots into the SUV, a male voice is heard saying "fucking bitch".

*Reactions: The phrase was allegedly spoken just after Good told the agents, "I'm not mad at you," right before she was shot while attempting to drive away.

*Controversy: The video has prompted widespread outrage and is being scrutinized for evidence of intent in a potential murder trial. The Trump administration has claimed the agent acted in self-defense, while the video evidence is being cited by critics to argue that the shooting was unjustified.

Some reports initially noted that while the audio is clear, the video was sometimes described as capturing "a male voice" right after the shooting, with some outlets, such as the Daily Beast, clarifying it was "unclear" if the voice was specifically Ross's, though multiple sources attribute it to him. However, the overwhelming consensus and reporting by mainstream news and social media accounts of the incident (such as from attorney Lee Merritt) identify the voice as belonging to ICE agent Jonathan Ross.
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