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WTF is wrong with Minnesota?

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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #120 on: December 29, 2025, 07:15:16 AM »
Are you now arguing that the surge in border crossings was well-organized?
It was. Ask the Catholic and Lutheran 'charitable' organizations.
Then add in the free phones, hotel rooms, transportation and loaded credit cards once they crossed the border.
And Martha's Vineyard was fairly organized also. They got the migrants bussed out of town in no time. They're not racist in Martha's Vineyard tho.

AI: "It was framed by state officials as a humanitarian response to provide better ongoing care than the island could sustain."

The officials couldn't find any empty storefronts in Martha's Vineyard to set up child care, autism or transportation 'businesses' ? Lol




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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #121 on: December 29, 2025, 07:23:11 AM »
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Did the Dem rep, who said in front of a camera that she needed 'constituents', get the 'constituents' that she wanted ?

Did the Dem reps who said we needed the workers get their requested number of busboys, dishwashers, laborers, cotton (I mean fruit and vegetable) pickers ?

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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #122 on: December 29, 2025, 08:44:29 AM »
Gerry Callahan
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"23-year-old YouTuber in a hoodie just did more in a day to expose massive Somali-Democrat fraud than the Minnesota media, CNN, NY Times, DOJ, FBI, DHS and the entire cast of 60 Minutes combined."

Here's the full 42 minutes from the YouTuber in a hoodie .....
https://x.com/i/status/2004642794862961123


A lot coming out that seems to indicate this “23 year old YouTuber’s” reporting wasn’t very accurate. Reminds me of the conservative kid that dressed up like a pimp and got exposed for some very shady editing.
« Last Edit: December 29, 2025, 09:56:53 AM by Hired Gun »
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #124 on: December 29, 2025, 08:57:02 AM »

A lot coming out that seems to indicate this “23 year old YouTuber’s” reporting wasn’t very accurate.
Thanks for the engagement farmer link. Lol
It's called 'kill the messenger'. You expected something different ?

They, self-serving Democrats and Republicans, are going to try to destroy the guy so that the people who see with their own eyes or hear with their own ears can be labeled as racists and xenophobes by people who read things in mass media.

It's going to get worse before it gets worse.
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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #125 on: December 29, 2025, 09:52:07 AM »
What if the messenger’s message isn’t exactly truthful?
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #126 on: December 29, 2025, 09:56:21 AM »
Shooting the messenger!

"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #127 on: December 29, 2025, 10:13:10 AM »
Shooting the messenger!

Uh huh.
And they don't want to hear from you because there are no kids.




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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #128 on: December 29, 2025, 12:45:43 PM »
Are you now arguing that the surge in border crossings was well-organized?

I am suggesting the use of the word hordes is a perjorative, similar to Trump calling it an invasion.
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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #129 on: December 29, 2025, 12:49:27 PM »


He wasn't part of the invading hordes of immigrants. Nobody cares.
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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #130 on: December 29, 2025, 01:19:12 PM »
He wasn't part of the invading hordes of immigrants. Nobody cares.
He also wasn't pardoned.

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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #131 on: December 29, 2025, 02:04:02 PM »
He also wasn't pardoned.

His sentence was commuted.
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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #132 on: December 29, 2025, 02:50:24 PM »
AI

Does a Pardon Require Admission of Guilt?

Yes, usually: For a pardon, applicants must demonstrate acceptance of responsibility for the crime. No Innocence Implied: A pardon doesn't mean you're innocent; it's forgiveness after accepting guilt and showing good behavior.

Commutation: Doesn't necessarily imply guilt; it's about the sentence's fairness.

Exception: The landmark pardon of Richard Nixon by Gerald Ford was an advance pardon that didn't require guilt admission, as Nixon hadn't even been charged yet.
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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #133 on: December 29, 2025, 05:37:15 PM »
Hid sentence was commuted.
The social media post that you used said he was pardoned.

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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #134 on: December 29, 2025, 05:44:11 PM »
AI

Does a Pardon Require Admission of Guilt?

Yes, usually: For a pardon, applicants must demonstrate acceptance of responsibility for the crime. No Innocence Implied: A pardon doesn't mean you're innocent; it's forgiveness after accepting guilt and showing good behavior.

Commutation: Doesn't necessarily imply guilt; it's about the sentence's fairness.

Exception: The landmark pardon of Richard Nixon by Gerald Ford was an advance pardon that didn't require guilt admission, as Nixon hadn't even been charged yet.
AI. And assuming that I asked the same question, word for word.

Does a pardon require admission of guilt

No, a pardon—particularly a U.S. presidential pardon—does not require an explicit admission of guilt from the recipient, nor does accepting one necessarily constitute a formal legal confession of guilt.Key Supreme Court Precedent: Burdick v. United States (1915)The often-cited case is Burdick v. United States (236 U.S. 79), where the Supreme Court stated in dictum (non-binding commentary) that a pardon "carries an imputation of guilt; acceptance a confession of it." This language explains why someone might reject a pardon to avoid implying guilt and preserve their Fifth Amendment rights. However, this was not the holding of the case, and legal experts widely view it as overstated or misunderstood when applied broadly.Modern Interpretations and RulingsModern courts and scholars reject the idea that acceptance always equals a legal admission of guilt:In 2021, the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals (Lorance v. Commandant) ruled that a former soldier's acceptance of a Trump pardon did not constitute a confession of guilt. The court called the Burdick language dicta and noted that the pardon was "agnostic as to... guilt," with no court since 1915 treating acceptance as a formal confession.
Constitutional law professors (e.g., Brian Kalt at Michigan State) describe the notion as a "widespread misunderstanding"—while a pardon may imply guilt publicly or practically, it has no formal legal effect of declaring someone guilty.

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