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Illini @ Indiana 12/14/25 6 PM CST on a Channel

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Re: Illini @ Indiana 12/14/25 6 PM CST on a Channel
« Reply #30 on: January 15, 2025, 08:18:30 AM »
Quote from: Custard on January 15, 2025, 12:32:59 AM
When we make threes and rebound teams get buried early and quit. When we don’t they stick around. Tough part is determining when to quit jacking threes and get points at the rim. The staff needs to figure that out asap because we can do both whenever we want against whoever we play. Playing the analytics game is great until everyone sleepwalks into a game and shoots like shit.

This. You have to have multiple ways to score and to stay in games when you are not shooting well. The teams that make runs can win by grinding it out and making stops when not hitting.
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Re: Illini @ Indiana 12/14/25 6 PM CST on a Channel
« Reply #31 on: January 15, 2025, 08:28:58 AM »
Quote from: Lkdog on January 15, 2025, 08:18:30 AM
This. You have to have multiple ways to score and to stay in games when you are not shooting well. The teams that make runs can win by grinding it out and making stops when not hitting.


We implemented this strategy against Oregon imo, not sure why we don't every game with the overall talent we have. We easily have 3-4 players that are legit 3 pt shooters, and we also have a legit 3-4 players that can drive and score with high %, with our rebounding ability on top of that, we should not waiver from the game plan that won us the Oregon game....against ANYBODY.

Granted we shot 50%+ from 3, but our ability to score elsewhere facilitated that as well.
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Re: Illini @ Indiana 12/14/25 6 PM CST on a Channel
« Reply #32 on: January 15, 2025, 08:40:56 AM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on January 15, 2025, 07:40:43 AM
We played some pretty good defense in Bloomington. When we're not shooting and/or we're sleepwalking it's time to focus on the defense. Do that and our offense usually follows.

I guess in my mind defense is non-negotiable and should always be high effort. I think you pointed out that taking and missing late 3s at Washington when we could get anything we wanted inside almost cost us the game. Morez is developing nicely on the offensive end, love what Tomi brings from a skill perspective but he is the definition of a finesse big man and needs to figure out how to finish contested shots inside for us to come close to our ceiling in March. I’m just worried the staff’s love affair with the 3 ball is going to end up costing us in the tourney. Would love to see some effort down the stretch to balance things out a bit, maybe 3-5 fewer “settle” threes a game in favor of more touches inside.
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Re: Illini @ Indiana 12/14/25 6 PM CST on a Channel
« Reply #33 on: January 15, 2025, 09:17:59 AM »
Geez. We are 4th in Torvik and 9th in KenPom.

We are a pretty average 3pt percentage shooting team (33%), but we are 24th in country in taking them. 
As noted we might want to adjust that a little bit.  ;D
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Re: Illini @ Indiana 12/14/25 6 PM CST on a Channel
« Reply #34 on: January 15, 2025, 09:22:31 AM »
Quote from: Lkdog on January 15, 2025, 09:17:59 AM

We are a pretty average 3pt percentage shooting team (33%), but we are 24th in country in taking them. 
As noted we might want to adjust that a little bit.  ;D

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« Reply #35 on: January 15, 2025, 09:28:26 AM »
Need Humrichous to do some more booty ball with smaller defenders when struggling from 3…
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Re: Illini @ Indiana 12/14/25 6 PM CST on a Channel
« Reply #36 on: January 15, 2025, 09:55:18 AM »
Quote from: Lkdog on January 15, 2025, 09:17:59 AM
Geez. We are 4th in Torvik and 9th in KenPom.

We are a pretty average 3pt percentage shooting team (33%), but we are 24th in country in taking them. 
As noted we might want to adjust that a little bit.  ;D
I think this argument has been presented in previous years 😁
Underwood's response appears to be 'keep shooting'.
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Re: Illini @ Indiana 12/14/25 6 PM CST on a Channel
« Reply #37 on: January 15, 2025, 10:04:46 AM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on January 15, 2025, 09:55:18 AM
I think this argument has been presented in previous years 😁
Underwood's response appears to be 'keep shooting'.

I don't think BU will deviate from this, he is on record as wanting an up and down Flying ILLINI type of feel at all times. He is promoting just a different sort of Flyin ILLINI...(they letting them 3's go).

I actually don't mind the occasional loss with this strategy, they are still maddening, but with this type of exciting offense (85-100 pts per game), lends itself to the occasional letdown. That said, Let Em Fly!!!
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Re: Illini @ Indiana 12/14/25 6 PM CST on a Channel
« Reply #38 on: January 15, 2025, 10:33:04 AM »
Quote from: ILLINICHIEF on January 15, 2025, 10:04:46 AM
I don't think BU will deviate from this, he is on record as wanting an up and down Flying ILLINI type of feel at all times. He is promoting just a different sort of Flyin ILLINI...(they letting them 3's go).

I actually don't mind the occasional loss with this strategy, they are still maddening, but with this type of exciting offense (85-100 pts per game), lends itself to the occasional letdown. That said, Let Em Fly!!!
We have reduced the shooting of bad 3s by the wrong people and/or at the wrong time from past years. That's a big plus
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Re: Illini @ Indiana 12/14/25 6 PM CST on a Channel
« Reply #39 on: January 15, 2025, 11:34:23 AM »
just gonna toot my AOTC horn here because why the fuck not

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Re: Illini @ Indiana 12/14/25 6 PM CST on a Channel
« Reply #40 on: January 15, 2025, 04:29:15 PM »
I think the justification for shooting so many threes is partly because we crash the offensive glass and get a ton of second chances off the misses. Sometimes I think our best offense is a missed three because it seems we always find an open guy in the scramble. Even with all that I think there are few each game we settle for a contested three when we ought to feed it to a big.
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Re: Illini @ Indiana 12/14/25 6 PM CST on a Channel
« Reply #41 on: January 16, 2025, 08:29:17 PM »
The ladies also won by double digits at the fake Assembly Hall 👏
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