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Re: 2025 Chicago Bears
« Reply #555 on: September 09, 2025, 12:15:13 PM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on September 09, 2025, 08:01:39 AM
I suppose you have the information to support the child rapist story of yours.

Ridiculous optimism is however allowed on the board, so I will allow your skepticism
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Re: 2025 Chicago Bears
« Reply #556 on: September 09, 2025, 12:15:53 PM »
Quote from: Jobu on September 09, 2025, 12:14:03 PM
Nope. You can't adjust expectations based on your weird estimates. Either they are ready to win now or they're not.

Caleb is in year 2. Johnson is a rookie head coach. They need more time. It's not up to you to decide how much time they need, just like it's not up to me. You told me 30 starts with Bustin. That was your benchmark, not mine. When you fire on Caleb for sucking, it's totally disingenuous because every fucking time I fired on Fields for sucking, I had to go through you defending him and telling me I was being unfair.

Nope. Fuck that.

You’d have to be a fucking moron to hold Flus to the same standard year 1 in his tenure to what Johnson has now. Flus had a bottom two (at best) roster. This is not that.
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Re: 2025 Chicago Bears
« Reply #557 on: September 09, 2025, 12:16:12 PM »
Quote from: Woke Mind Virus on September 09, 2025, 12:14:11 PM
Why? We’re gonna give up on the “best prospect since luck” and the hottest coaching hire in several cycles in less than 3 years?

You seem ready to. You say what you're saying now, but when we were saying shit about Fields, we were assholes.

You can't get away with this shit.
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Re: 2025 Chicago Bears
« Reply #558 on: September 09, 2025, 12:16:42 PM »
Holding completely different rosters in completely different stages of a rebuild to the same standard is beyond moronic
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Re: 2025 Chicago Bears
« Reply #559 on: September 09, 2025, 12:17:45 PM »
Quote from: Woke Mind Virus on September 09, 2025, 12:15:53 PM
You’d have to be a fucking moron to hold Flus to the same standard year 1 in his tenure to what Johnson has now. Flus had a bottom two (at best) roster. This is not that.

I hold anyone that is a head coach in the NFL to a high standard. Flus was hired to win games. He didn't. Johnson was hired to win games. He sucked last night.
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Re: 2025 Chicago Bears
« Reply #560 on: September 09, 2025, 12:17:56 PM »
It’s like if the Cubs hired Joe Madden in 2015 and then held them to the same standards of 2013.

Completely moronic.
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Re: 2025 Chicago Bears
« Reply #561 on: September 09, 2025, 12:20:14 PM »
Quote from: Jobu on September 09, 2025, 12:17:45 PM
I hold anyone that is a head coach in the NFL to a high standard. Flus was hired to win games. He didn't. Johnson was hired to win games. He sucked last night.

No one was winning with that roster. GtFOH. You could have had Don Shula HC, Bill Walsh OC, and Bill Belichick DC and that 2022 team wasn’t going to be good. It’s about the Jimmy’s and Joe’s not the X’s and O’s.
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Re: 2025 Chicago Bears
« Reply #562 on: September 09, 2025, 12:21:25 PM »
Quote from: Woke Mind Virus on September 09, 2025, 12:16:42 PM
Holding completely different rosters in completely different stages of a rebuild to the same standard is beyond moronic

I disagree. These guys are professional football players. The shitty fucking Bears have as much opportunity as anyone else to get good players. And they have an opportunity to hire a staff that can get them to win.

The fact that they didn't win the last few years is on the organization. Rebuilding in the NFL is a myth. You can get good real quick if you know what you're doing. It has happened.
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Re: 2025 Chicago Bears
« Reply #563 on: September 09, 2025, 12:22:35 PM »
LOL you are fucking clueless then. Talent fucking matters. I can’t believe we’re having this discussion. Fuck, I gotta go.
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Re: 2025 Chicago Bears
« Reply #564 on: September 09, 2025, 12:23:50 PM »
Quote from: Woke Mind Virus on September 09, 2025, 12:20:14 PM
No one was winning with that roster. GtFOH. You could have had Don Shula HC, Bill Walsh OC, and Bill Belichick DC and that 2022 team wasn’t going to be good. It’s about the Jimmy’s and Joe’s not the X’s and O’s.

Ok? I haven't argued against that. The Bears suck. Yet, you told us that they were going to make the playoffs when they went 3-13. So, maybe you don't know what the fuck you're talking about either.
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Re: 2025 Chicago Bears
« Reply #565 on: September 09, 2025, 12:25:12 PM »
Quote from: Woke Mind Virus on September 09, 2025, 12:22:35 PM
LOL you are fucking clueless then. Talent fucking matters. I can’t believe we’re having this discussion. Fuck, I gotta go.

Of course talent matters. I never said it didn't. You're the one that said the Bears were going to make the playoffs. Before every fucking season, including this one, you're like yeah. We're making the playoffs.

You don't know shit, guy. Sorry. You suck just like all of the rest of us.
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Re: 2025 Chicago Bears
« Reply #566 on: September 09, 2025, 12:26:35 PM »
Quote from: Jobu on September 09, 2025, 12:21:25 PM
I disagree. These guys are professional football players. The shitty fucking Bears have as much opportunity as anyone else to get good players. And they have an opportunity to hire a staff that can get them to win.

The fact that they didn't win the last few years is on the organization. Rebuilding in the NFL is a myth. You can get good real quick if you know what you're doing. It has happened.

Yeah, tell that to the Giants, Browns (two time HC of the year btw!), Jets, Panthers, Raiders, Colts, Cardinals, and then about 4 other franchises that are finally turning the corner after many years of futility. “It’s easy!”
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Re: 2025 Chicago Bears
« Reply #567 on: September 09, 2025, 12:28:07 PM »
Quote from: Jobu on September 09, 2025, 12:25:12 PM
Of course talent matters. I never said it didn't. You're the one that said the Bears were going to make the playoffs. Before every fucking season, including this one, you're like yeah. We're making the playoffs.

You don't know shit, guy. Sorry. You suck just like all of the rest of us.

Expecting anyone to win with the 2022 Bears is madness. The crazy part is, the 2023 team was wildly close to going 10-7 without Eberflus’ patented collapses.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: 2025 Chicago Bears
« Reply #568 on: September 09, 2025, 12:30:00 PM »
Quote from: Jobu on September 09, 2025, 12:25:12 PM
Of course talent matters. I never said it didn't. You're the one that said the Bears were going to make the playoffs. Before every fucking season, including this one, you're like yeah. We're making the playoffs.

You don't know shit, guy. Sorry. You suck just like all of the rest of us.

I can promise you I never said the 2022 Bears were making the playoffs. And I was down on the franchises’ prospects Nagy’s last two years.
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Re: 2025 Chicago Bears
« Reply #569 on: September 09, 2025, 12:30:44 PM »
Quote from: Jobu on September 09, 2025, 12:23:50 PM
Ok? I haven't argued against that. The Bears suck. Yet, you told us that they were going to make the playoffs when they went 3-13. So, maybe you don't know what the fuck you're talking about either.

Show me the prediction.
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