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WTF is wrong with Joe Biden today?

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Re: WTF is wrong with Joe Biden today?
« Reply #1170 on: August 11, 2023, 08:18:36 PM »
Quote from: Mn on August 11, 2023, 06:57:25 PM
Wasn't the original tax plea deal for 2 misdemeanors and probation ?
Yeah, he might take that.

Yeah, but sounds like things fell apart on the issue of whether it would end any and all investigations.
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Re: WTF is wrong with Joe Biden today?
« Reply #1171 on: August 11, 2023, 08:44:58 PM »
I thought I heard an appellate court recently ruled that the law precluding drug addicts, whatever, from having guns was unconstitutional. Could throw a wrench in the gun charge
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Re: WTF is wrong with Joe Biden today?
« Reply #1172 on: August 11, 2023, 09:22:52 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on August 11, 2023, 08:44:58 PM
I thought I heard an appellate court recently ruled that the law precluding drug addicts, whatever, from having guns was unconstitutional. Could throw a wrench in the gun charge
Was the case about possession, or lying on your application ?
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Re: WTF is wrong with Joe Biden today?
« Reply #1173 on: August 11, 2023, 09:46:52 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on August 11, 2023, 08:18:36 PM
Yeah, but sounds like things fell apart on the issue of whether it would end any and all investigations.
After 5 years of investigations and the 2014 and 2015 charging decisions turned down in California and DC and the statute of limitations on those expiring and statements from Garland and Weiss that Weiss did have charging abilities , the judge in Delaware, who happened to read the diversion agreement that was put together by the guy who was just given a promotion, is eliminated due to lack of venue in Delaware.
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Re: WTF is wrong with Joe Biden today?
« Reply #1174 on: August 11, 2023, 11:04:04 PM »
Quote from: Mn on August 11, 2023, 09:46:52 PM
After 5 years of investigations and the 2014 and 2015 charging decisions turned down in California and DC and the statute of limitations on those expiring and statements from Garland and Weiss that Weiss did have charging abilities , the judge in Delaware, who happened to read the diversion agreement that was put together by the guy who was just given a promotion, is eliminated due to lack of venue in Delaware.

And yet Weiss, appointed by Trump, has been at this for 5 years? He's been at it longer than Durham.
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Re: WTF is wrong with Joe Biden today?
« Reply #1175 on: August 11, 2023, 11:07:04 PM »
Quote from: Mn on August 11, 2023, 09:22:52 PM
Was the case about possession, or lying on your application ?

I don't know if it is all the same law.

If you cannot deny a gun to a guy on the hooch, why ask him if he is on the hooch on the application?
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Re: WTF is wrong with Joe Biden today?
« Reply #1176 on: August 11, 2023, 11:14:21 PM »
I've read that apparently rhe Delaware judge no longer has jurisdiction because the Biden kid withdrew his waiver of where the charges can be brought. That led to the special counsel designation so that Weiss can prosecute Biden in Cali or DC, etc.
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Re: WTF is wrong with Joe Biden today?
« Reply #1177 on: August 12, 2023, 06:45:59 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on August 11, 2023, 11:07:04 PM

If you cannot deny a gun to a guy on the hooch, why ask him if he is on the hooch on the application?

He did have an option to answer the question truthfully.
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Re: WTF is wrong with Joe Biden today?
« Reply #1178 on: August 12, 2023, 06:56:31 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on August 11, 2023, 11:14:21 PM
I've read that apparently rhe Delaware judge no longer has jurisdiction because the Biden kid withdrew his waiver of where the charges can be brought. That led to the special counsel designation so that Weiss can prosecute Biden in Cali or DC, etc.
We were told that Weiss had full charging capabilities and that special counsel status wasn't necessary. That is, until a couple of whistleblowers showed up and a judge who no longer has venue happened to read the unprecedented diversion agreement.
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Re: WTF is wrong with Joe Biden today?
« Reply #1179 on: August 12, 2023, 09:07:05 AM »
Quote from: Mn on August 12, 2023, 06:45:59 AM
He did have an option to answer the question truthfully.

If he did, he would not have gotten the gun permit, right? We all want dope heads carrying around guns? According to the 5th Circuit,  we do.
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Re: WTF is wrong with Joe Biden today?
« Reply #1180 on: August 12, 2023, 09:09:41 AM »
Quote from: Mn on August 12, 2023, 06:56:31 AM
We were told that Weiss had full charging capabilities and that special counsel status wasn't necessary. That is, until a couple of whistleblowers showed up and a judge who no longer has venue happened to read the unprecedented diversion agreement.

Weiss cannot litigate charges Biden in DC or Cal without being special counsel. Someone else would have to do that.

Which makes the decision to name him special counsel understandable, and, ironically, in line with the requests of certain GOP congressman over the past year.
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Re: WTF is wrong with Joe Biden today?
« Reply #1181 on: August 12, 2023, 09:11:40 AM »
Obviously what changed was Biden"s willingness to have all the charges litigated in DE, where Weiss was the US Attorney, as appointed by Trump. Weiss cannot litigate outside of DE.
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Re: WTF is wrong with Joe Biden today?
« Reply #1182 on: August 12, 2023, 09:17:29 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on August 12, 2023, 09:07:05 AM
If he did, he would not have gotten the gun permit, right? We all want dope heads carrying around guns? According to the 5th Circuit,  we do.
Apparently Hunter wasn't charged with lying on the application but was charged with the possession issue.
It looks like the 5th Circuit decision dealt with possession and not lying on an application, so Hunter probably benefits from the court decision.
If Weiss can add a charge of lying on the application, I'm not sure the 5th Circuit decision would necessarily come into play.
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Re: WTF is wrong with Joe Biden today?
« Reply #1183 on: August 12, 2023, 09:42:34 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on August 12, 2023, 09:09:41 AM
Weiss cannot litigate charges Biden in DC or Cal without being special counsel. Someone else would have to do that.

Which makes the decision to name him special counsel understandable, and, ironically, in line with the requests of certain GOP congressman over the past year.
Re March 1 ABC article and Garland appearing before Senate Judiciary ..

"Garland made clear that Weiss has been told he has "full authority" to make any charging decisions stemming from the investigation, even if that would involve bringing a case in a district outside of Delaware."
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/senate-panel-expected-grill-garland-trump-biden-special/story?id=97549404

I guess not, eh ?

""If my assumption is correct, I want to make clear that, as the Attorney General has stated, I have been granted ultimate authority over this matter, including responsibility for deciding where, when, and whether to file charges and for making decisions necessary to preserve the integrity of the prosecution, consistent with federal law, the Principles of Federal Prosecution, and Departmental regulations," he wrote."

Except for that tricky part at the end that doesn't exactly say that I don't have venue in Delaware but that's what it means. The 1st part sure sounds good tho. Lol.
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Re: WTF is wrong with Joe Biden today?
« Reply #1184 on: August 12, 2023, 09:54:48 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on August 12, 2023, 09:07:05 AM
If he did, he would not have gotten the gun permit, right? We all want dope heads carrying around guns? According to the 5th Circuit,  we do.
I think the trend is more that it's ok to have dope heads wandering around.

If they happen to have a gun, so be it.
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