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WTF is wrong with Joe Biden today?

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Re: WTF is wrong with Joe Biden today?
« Reply #1410 on: December 18, 2024, 06:55:25 PM »
Name me another president that invited a mob to the Capitol so they could overturn the results of an election. You guys are fucking clueless. Bots.

It’s hilarious that you believe that’s what actually happened.
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Re: WTF is wrong with Joe Biden today?
« Reply #1411 on: December 18, 2024, 07:02:42 PM »
It’s hilarious that you believe that’s what actually happened.

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Re: WTF is wrong with Joe Biden today?
« Reply #1412 on: December 18, 2024, 07:58:55 PM »
It’s hilarious that you believe that’s what actually happened.

It’s hilarious that you think that’s what didn’t happen. I mean, just beyond idiotic. What do you think the whole “stop the steal” thing was about? Are you seriously this much of a bot?
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Re: WTF is wrong with Joe Biden today?
« Reply #1413 on: December 18, 2024, 08:04:44 PM »
Trump just happened to speak at a rally and encouraged his supporters to march to the Capitol and “show strength” hours before they confirmed the results of the election. I’m sure the date and time of that rally were purely coincidental.

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Re: WTF is wrong with Joe Biden today?
« Reply #1414 on: December 18, 2024, 08:07:21 PM »
It’s hilarious that you believe that’s what actually happened.

So in your opinion, what did happen? I’d be fascinated to hear this.
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Re: WTF is wrong with Joe Biden today?
« Reply #1415 on: December 18, 2024, 09:44:40 PM »
So in your opinion, what did happen? I’d be fascinated to hear this.

I don’t know. Neither do you. That’s why I say I would love to know what actually happened. I used to think kind of the same way you do, but new shit has come to light, man. I believed that Trump was wrong and an idiot to keep denying the election results for so long because I believed in the inherent fairness of our elections. Then we have an election in 2024 and magically the turnout drops back to where it is pretty much EVERY OTHER YEAR except 2020 when millions upon millions of extra votes showed up. Some of which came in droves in the middle of the night and shifted swing states from Trump to Biden. We didn’t see anything like that this year when people were watching more closely.

I wasn’t there on January 6 (Free Shot Day of Reconciliation) and there are a lot of conflicting reports from people that were. Only one side got a voice until recently. I don’t pick and choose who to believe based on my feelings about Trump. I am more interested in knowing what actually happened than what the TDS media has spun out, but we’ll likely never know. Just like we don’t know anything about the kid who shot Trump, or what happened to Kennedy.

We were told this was some organic happening yet people who actually were there said all along there were feds involved. It all was labeled a conspiracy theory, until it was revealed to be true. Now the same “iTs a cOnsPiRaCy!” people have pivoted to, “Well I would sure hope there were feds there!”

Trump instructed his followers to be peaceful. The “show strength” quote you referenced above is as out-of-context as what the fake news said that he said in Charlottesville.

Don’t you think it a bit odd that the Capitol building of the most powerful nation in the world was left essentially undefended against this “mob” that Trump “incited?” And yes, I have come around to thinking there were likely agent provocateurs involved.
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Re: WTF is wrong with Joe Biden today?
« Reply #1416 on: December 19, 2024, 01:25:01 AM »
I don’t know. Neither do you.

I stopped reading your drivel and denialism right here. If I get super bored, maybe I’ll check out the rest later. But I doubt it. Laughable shit, here. Talk about head in the fucking sand.
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Re: WTF is wrong with Joe Biden today?
« Reply #1417 on: December 19, 2024, 08:08:56 AM »
I don't think Custard understands what a Confidential Informant (CI) actually is.

CIs are not LEOs. They are civilians, often criminals, who secretly provide information to LEOs. The FBI and other law enforcement likely had CIs within the Proud Boys and other right wing groups as well as Antifa and other left wing groups. If they didn't; they weren't doing their job.

Saying they had CIs was never a conspiracy theory. To jump from civilian CIs to Agents Provocateur is a stretch at best.

A CONFIDENTIAL INFORMANT IS A SECRET SOURCE WHO, THROUGH A CONTACT OFFICER, SUPPLIES INFORMATION ON CRIMINAL ACTIVITY TO THE POLICE OR LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENT.
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Re: WTF is wrong with Joe Biden today?
« Reply #1418 on: December 19, 2024, 08:13:10 AM »
Jan 3. The guy who we were told invited a mob to overturn the results of the election is quoted by the Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff as having said to make it "safe".
The people tasked with the job of making it "safe" apparently had other concerns.
The people tasked with making Minneapolis "safe" in the summer of 2020 apparently had better ideas also.
Cities across the country saw what we were told were 'mostly peaceful protests'. We were told that the destruction and deaths were simply a side effect of rightful grievances. It was all ok then.
Intelligence knew that people similar to those who caused the death and destruction in the summer of 2020 may be present on Jan 6. Trump knew too.

"At 3:04pm, Miller provided verbal approval to Secretary McCarthy for immediate deployment of the DCNG. What was Secretary McCarthy doing between receiving this approval, and 5:08pm, when the order eventually reaches the D.C. National Guard? Why didn’t he communicate this approval for a full two hours?
At 3:18pm, Secretary McCarthy told Congressional Democrat Leadership that the DC National Guard had the “green light” and “is moving”. Two hours would pass before Secretary McCarthy’s deployment order would ACTUALLY be communicated to the DCNG.
 
In these vital hours, the DCNG had been trying but was unable to reach Secretary McCarthy.
 
DCNG Adjutant General Aaron Dean: “[Walker] tried to call Secretary McCarthy three times between 2:30 and 5pm. He said, ‘I haven’t heard from him all day.’  When he tried to call his cell phone, it went straight to voicemail.”
https://cha.house.gov/2024/9/transcripts-show-president-trump-s-directives-to-pentagon-leadership-to-keep-january-6-safe-were-deliberately-ignored

But for the inauguation 2 weeks later .....
" The Pentagon has authorized up to 25,000 National Guard members for President-elect Joe Biden’s inauguration, the National Guard Bureau said in a press release Friday, marking an increase from the 21,000 troops authorized a day earlier."
"The National Guard will have more than strength in numbers. The Department of Defense announced Tuesday that National Guard members will be armed as they are supporting US Capitol security in Washington, DC, ahead of Inauguration Day."
"Capt. Chelsi Johnson, spokesperson for the DC National Guard, said in a statement to CNN that the move was requested by federal authorities and authorized by Secretary of the Army Ryan McCarthy. The first wave of National Guard troops who arrived at the Capitol were unarmed."
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/15/politics/pentagon-national-guard-inauguration/index.html

Excuse me, but wtf is the President of the United States/Commander in Chief other than a "federal authority" who  is quoted as saying to have "sufficient National Guard or Solders to make sure it's a safe event."
".... do whatever you have to do. Just make sure it's safe."


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Re: WTF is wrong with Joe Biden today?
« Reply #1419 on: December 19, 2024, 09:35:11 AM »
Jan 3. The guy who we were told invited a mob to overturn the results of the election is quoted by the Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff as having said to make it "safe".
The people tasked with the job of making it "safe" apparently had other concerns.
The people tasked with making Minneapolis "safe" in the summer of 2020 apparently had better ideas also.
Cities across the country saw what we were told were 'mostly peaceful protests'. We were told that the destruction and deaths were simply a side effect of rightful grievances. It was all ok then.
Intelligence knew that people similar to those who caused the death and destruction in the summer of 2020 may be present on Jan 6. Trump knew too.

"At 3:04pm, Miller provided verbal approval to Secretary McCarthy for immediate deployment of the DCNG. What was Secretary McCarthy doing between receiving this approval, and 5:08pm, when the order eventually reaches the D.C. National Guard? Why didn’t he communicate this approval for a full two hours?
At 3:18pm, Secretary McCarthy told Congressional Democrat Leadership that the DC National Guard had the “green light” and “is moving”. Two hours would pass before Secretary McCarthy’s deployment order would ACTUALLY be communicated to the DCNG.
 
In these vital hours, the DCNG had been trying but was unable to reach Secretary McCarthy.
 
DCNG Adjutant General Aaron Dean: “[Walker] tried to call Secretary McCarthy three times between 2:30 and 5pm. He said, ‘I haven’t heard from him all day.’  When he tried to call his cell phone, it went straight to voicemail.”
https://cha.house.gov/2024/9/transcripts-show-president-trump-s-directives-to-pentagon-leadership-to-keep-january-6-safe-were-deliberately-ignored

But for the inauguation 2 weeks later .....
" The Pentagon has authorized up to 25,000 National Guard members for President-elect Joe Biden’s inauguration, the National Guard Bureau said in a press release Friday, marking an increase from the 21,000 troops authorized a day earlier."
"The National Guard will have more than strength in numbers. The Department of Defense announced Tuesday that National Guard members will be armed as they are supporting US Capitol security in Washington, DC, ahead of Inauguration Day."
"Capt. Chelsi Johnson, spokesperson for the DC National Guard, said in a statement to CNN that the move was requested by federal authorities and authorized by Secretary of the Army Ryan McCarthy. The first wave of National Guard troops who arrived at the Capitol were unarmed."
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/15/politics/pentagon-national-guard-inauguration/index.html

Excuse me, but wtf is the President of the United States/Commander in Chief other than a "federal authority" who  is quoted as saying to have "sufficient National Guard or Solders to make sure it's a safe event."
".... do whatever you have to do. Just make sure it's safe."



Don’t go all factual on them. They will just make more shit up…
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Re: WTF is wrong with Joe Biden today?
« Reply #1420 on: December 19, 2024, 09:53:44 AM »
Don’t go all factual on them. They will just make more shit up…
I suppose we could go back to the House resolution that brought about the committee.
"The select committee must (1) conduct an investigation of the relevant facts and circumstances relating to the attack on the Capitol; (2) identify, review, and evaluate the causes of ......"

Dunno, but maybe the omitted 1 terabyte of data addressed some of the issues related to the causes. 😁

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Re: WTF is wrong with Joe Biden today?
« Reply #1421 on: December 19, 2024, 10:01:00 AM »
Some people have trouble processing the information they read.

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Re: WTF is wrong with Joe Biden today?
« Reply #1422 on: December 19, 2024, 10:05:19 AM »
So Custard is romancing the idea that 1/6 was an inside job. Fantastic. Talk about drinking the kool-aid.
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Re: WTF is wrong with Joe Biden today?
« Reply #1423 on: December 19, 2024, 10:22:04 AM »
Here you go, you dumbfucks can read the actual memo behind the January 6th plan. JFC. https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/21/politics/read-eastman-memo/index.html

The motherfucker got disbarred as a result. https://statesunited.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Eastman-Decision.pdf

Meanwhile Chesebro pleaded guilty in Georgia in the RICO case. Which is still in effect. https://apnews.com/article/georgia-election-indictment-trump-chesebro-675a22ff0004de097be31021cf949080

Yeah, it was an inside job. Inside the fucking White House.

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Re: WTF is wrong with Joe Biden today?
« Reply #1424 on: December 19, 2024, 10:22:17 AM »
How about the deleted SS texts that would support Cassidy Hutchinson?
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