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Hey guys, I was wrong about something

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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #255 on: October 01, 2024, 05:11:12 PM »
Comments like this seem to validate Calvin’s take of “Illini homerism masquerading as legal evidence!”

At the end of the day the case lacked legal evidence.
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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #256 on: October 01, 2024, 05:11:27 PM »
Comments like this seem to validate Calvin’s take of “Illini homerism masquerading as legal evidence!”

It's not really homerism this time.  They just don't like me, and are happy to tell inflammatory lies about someone they don't like.

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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #257 on: October 01, 2024, 05:13:41 PM »
At the end of the day the case lacked legal evidence.

Which fully jibes with everything I have been saying since months before the trial (which you initially tried to lie about, before I proved it), and yet you insist I was wrong about the WHOLE case.

I know something making sense isn't really a factor here, but that doesn't make even the slightest bit of sense.

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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #258 on: October 01, 2024, 05:14:21 PM »
It's not really homerism this time.  They just don't like me, and are happy to tell inflammatory lies about someone they don't like.

Hmmmm, feel like I’ve seen this before.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #259 on: October 01, 2024, 05:15:25 PM »
At the end of the day the case lacked legal evidence.

So Illini homerism IS reliable as legal evidence!
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #260 on: October 01, 2024, 05:17:43 PM »
I wonder if the same conclusions would have been made and vigorously defended had it been a Duke player or Fran McCaffery’s kid.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #261 on: October 01, 2024, 05:30:45 PM »
White Knight Tempo is a little late to the rescue.
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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #262 on: October 01, 2024, 05:40:49 PM »
White Knight Tempo is a little late to the rescue.

Rigged jury.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #263 on: October 01, 2024, 06:14:15 PM »
Mark Carman: "The Whitlock!...Caleb Williams failed Wayne Whitlock." Been told I need to take my dick out my mouth so maybe I "wont [sic] sound like such a fucking faggot all the time[.]"

Tempo: "PAMan is a pot stirrer and agent provocateur"

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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #264 on: October 01, 2024, 08:54:57 PM »
The case badly lacked evidence but none of us knew that until we actually had the victim's testimony and the DNA results, and it got annoying watching the orange-est quarter of the fanbase call the victim a ho based on the tiniest morsels of nothing-news. That said, people - and particularly younger black males - get convicted on as little evidence all the time. Like the Duke lacrosse thing it's a silver platter example of a conservative state prosecutor going way overboard in abusing discretion (see also the ongoing human rights violation that is the YSL trial). Not sure what exactly spark's involvement in that was.




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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #265 on: October 01, 2024, 09:32:52 PM »
I cannot believe you read enough of that to even chime in.

Sorry for bringing your name into it.

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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #266 on: October 01, 2024, 09:55:05 PM »
I cannot believe you read enough of that to even chime in.

Sorry for bringing your name into it.

You should be because you are a fucking asshole douchebag moron.
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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #267 on: October 01, 2024, 10:13:48 PM »
My brain fog lifted a little. Based on the the released police report, the case looked weak from the start. Insiders assured us it was even weaker than it looked. They also thought there was a good chance TSJ would return.

There were a handful or so who were certain TSJ's career at UI was over. They were also fairly confident that prosecutors had more strong evidence we hadn't seen yet.

It turned out not only was their case  weak, the undisclosed evidence was far more exculpatory than not.
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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #268 on: October 01, 2024, 10:28:50 PM »
Spark breathlessly rushed to moral high ground, found the exact center of the fence to sit on, and then castigated all that he deemed to be below him; all while openly rooting for an upstanding young black man to have everything he has worked his entire life for broken on the rocks of Lawrence, Kansas DA fuckery just to wait and see if some sketchy bar skank was telling a truth that anyone with an IQ above room temperature already knew she wasn’t telling.

He THEN relentlessly insisted he’s the good guy for doing it while labeling everyone else a meatball moron for calling out bullshit when they see it.

This is a perfect example of how bleeding heart people who seem to believe there are no bad actors—just misunderstood ones—unwittingly end up on the wrong side of a heinous situation simply because they couldn’t bring themselves to accept the info and evidence staring them directly in the fucking face because it *might* later force them to admit someone is actually a piece of shit.

When a person becomes so consumed with virtue signaling self-righteousness that they cannot see the forest from the trees, I have to question just how great of a person they truly are.

Terrence Shannon, Jr. deserved better from you, spark.



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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #269 on: October 01, 2024, 10:45:00 PM »
Spark breathlessly rushed to moral high ground, found the exact center of the fence to sit on, and then castigated all that he deemed to be below him; all while openly rooting for an upstanding young black man to have everything he has worked his entire life for broken on the rocks of Lawrence, Kansas DA fuckery just to wait and see if some sketchy bar skank was telling a truth that anyone with an IQ above room temperature already knew she wasn’t telling.

He THEN relentlessly insisted he’s the good guy for doing it while labeling everyone else a meatball moron for calling out bullshit when they see it.

This is a perfect example of how bleeding heart people who seem to believe there are no bad actors—just misunderstood ones—unwittingly end up on the wrong side of a heinous situation simply because they couldn’t bring themselves to accept the info and evidence staring them directly in the fucking face because it *might* later force them to admit someone is actually a piece of shit.

When a person becomes so consumed with virtue signaling self-righteousness that they cannot see the forest from the trees, I have to question just how great of a person they truly are.

Terrence Shannon, Jr. deserved better from you, spark.

Extremely ironic to come here and try to castigate me for "taking the moral high ground", while doing the same thing - even though you were exactly the type of fan calvin was talking about who slut-shamed this girl with zero information about her.  Disgusting, but expected.

Your claim that I openly rooted for TSJ to have his life broken is absolute horseshit, a disgraceful lie unbecoming of any decent person.  I openly rooted for justice and for the truth to come out.  What I didn't do is act like a jackass, which is what you seem to demand - I didn't slut-shame the accuser like you gleefully did, I didn't doxx her, I didn't call her a money grubbing whore.  I also didn't assume he did it, I didn't call him a rapist, and I didn't advocate for him to be thrown in prison without evidence - something at least a handful of your buddies here did regarding his accuser, with zero condemnation from you.  I waited for the evidence to come out like a fucking adult - something you call "fence riding" to avoid acknowledging that it's actually just acting like I've graduated junior high - the worst offense possible in this atmosphere you've cultivated.  You're high and mighty about the fact that I did not jump to conclusions and waited for the evidence to come out before I made a judgment, something well adjusted people learn to do when they're adolescents.

Yes, you were a meatball moron!  You slut-shamed someone who as far as we know was sexually assaulted, and you did it because of fucking college basketball.  If you don't see how absolutely god damn reprehensible that is you're too deep down the well to even see the light.

It's not virtue signalling self-righteousness to call out despicable behavior, but it's often pretended to be by people acting despicably - as we see here.  It's a way to get the discussion OFF how you and the people on the board you run slut-shamed and doxxed a likely sexual assault victim, and onto the "self-righteousness" of those who might dare to point out how gross it is to both allow that to happen on your board and to actively participate in it.  You seem to have built a large part of your worldview based on this notion - I have to join in with the people who behave disgustingly, because those people who point out how gross I'm acting just come off as self-righteous!

Your female family members deserve better than the behavior you displayed and condoned here, but you don't give a shit.

Do I feel awful for Shannon, and glad that he wasn't convicted without any evidence?  God yes!  Of course I do.  And if the girl was sexually assaulted, I feel awful for her too!  That shit sucks, because that means the person who did that will not face justice for it!  You guys act like I was "openly rooting" against TSJ even though you know that's a lie, because otherwise you'd have to actually examine your own behavior.
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