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Hey guys, I was wrong about something

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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #225 on: October 01, 2024, 04:45:50 PM »
LOL. You got smoked by Nichi. Nichi may have been advising the defense counsel on this issue....

Just pretend with me guys.

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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #226 on: October 01, 2024, 04:46:01 PM »
Uh, what?

There wasn't enough DNA for a conclusive match to anyone - it stated as much clearly in the lab report.  But the partial DNA still belonged to someone, it didn't just appear out of nowhere - THAT'S how DNA works.

The prosecution wanted to introduce it and try to tie it to TSJ in court - the idea being, just because the other swabs precluded him, this one didn't.  Again, that's their job.

And it's the defense's job to say no, there's no connection to TSJ, and it should get tossed.

Oh, bullshit. They can get your DNA by you touching a fucking doorknob. It doesn't take much anymore. Like, hardly anything and your DNA is present.

They didn't have TSJ's DNA and they knew it. If that lab said it was inconclusive because they didn't have have enough of a sample, then it's a shitty, or corrupt lab.

This isn't 1983. They can get DNA from a very small sample.
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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #227 on: October 01, 2024, 04:47:04 PM »
Neither the search history nor the emoji from an uninvolved party is relevant to whether TSJ was guilty.

I don't blame the defense for letting the jury make their own inferences from that information - again, that's their job, to introduce reasonable doubt - but neither thing is some evidence that she was a money grubber out to get money.

And anyway, wasn't it Arterio Morris?


This is great. Again, the credibility of the prosecution case was so destroyed that they did not bring the accuser back for re-direct. They knew it was over because of all this shit the defense drudged up about her and her friend.
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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #228 on: October 01, 2024, 04:48:25 PM »
Oh, bullshit. They can get your DNA by you touching a fucking doorknob. It doesn't take much anymore. Like, hardly anything and your DNA is present.

They didn't have TSJ's DNA and they knew it. If that lab said it was inconclusive because they didn't have have enough of a sample, then it's a shitty, or corrupt lab.

This isn't 1983. They can get DNA from a very small sample.

Here's what the lab report said:

Uncertainties Whether the Samples Contain "Male DNA" (1.6 and 1.7 underwear)


"Two samples tested were reported as "due to an insufficient amount of male DNA, this sample was not selected for further testing at this time": 1.6, swabs from inside crotch of underwear and 1.7, swabs from outside crotch of underwear.

Given that these samples exhibiting the possible presence of male DNA fall well under the documented dynamic range for this quantitation kit, without further analysis to confirm the presence of male DNA (repeat quantitation) or attempted Y-STR analysis to possibly establish even partial haplotype profile, these quantitation values alone cannot be considered conclusive evidence of male DNA on these items."

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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #229 on: October 01, 2024, 04:49:57 PM »

This is great. Again, the credibility of the prosecution case was so destroyed that they did not bring the accuser back for re-direct. They knew it was over because of all this shit the defense drudged up about her and her friend.

You act like I'm somehow on the side of the prosecutor, despite my repeated statements both before and after the trial that I hadn't seen any evidence that'd lead me to convict and that they reached the correct verdict.

I agree!  It would've been a miscarriage of justice if he'd been convicted based on the evidence they presented!

It wasn't because she'd slept with other men, or because her friend sent her an emoji though.  It was because they did not have evidence - video evidence, DNA evidence, etc. - supporting a conviction.
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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #230 on: October 01, 2024, 04:50:18 PM »
Shitty lab then. But it's Kansas, so it's whatever.
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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #231 on: October 01, 2024, 04:51:56 PM »
Spark, I'm sorry TSJ wasn't guilty. I know you really needed that to happen.
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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #232 on: October 01, 2024, 04:52:35 PM »
The DA did not even want to touch this one. She made her underling try the case and then he quit right after it. But Spark was right the whole time about the evidence, the Illinois investigatory process, etc.
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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #233 on: October 01, 2024, 04:52:41 PM »
Those prosecutors fucked Spark over.
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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #234 on: October 01, 2024, 04:53:00 PM »
Spark, I'm sorry TSJ wasn't guilty. I know you really needed that to happen.

I always hate when a jury reaches a verdict I agree with.

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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #235 on: October 01, 2024, 04:53:46 PM »
Spark, I'm sorry TSJ wasn't guilty. I know you really needed that to happen.

He is slam dunking now. Imagine the slam dunking by Spark if he had been found guilty.
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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #236 on: October 01, 2024, 04:53:49 PM »
I always hate when a jury reaches a verdict I agree with.

It's just too bad he didn't really do it.
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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #237 on: October 01, 2024, 04:54:17 PM »
He is slam dunking now. Imagine the slam dunking by Spark if he had been found guilty.

If he'd been found guilty based on the evidence they presented, I'd have been furious.

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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #238 on: October 01, 2024, 04:54:46 PM »
Those prosecutors fucked Spark over.

The Spark!...The Lawrence DA failed Spark Mandrill.
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Re: Hey guys, I was wrong about something
« Reply #239 on: October 01, 2024, 04:54:58 PM »
If he'd been found guilty based on the evidence they presented, I'd have been furious.

I don't believe that for a second.
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