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Stories not being reported that you won’t believe anyways

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Re: Stories not being reported that you won’t believe anyways
« Reply #45 on: September 27, 2024, 09:35:59 PM »
Shut the fuck up retard!  Do you understand that?

No, Trumper. Does that help with context?
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Re: Stories not being reported that you won’t believe anyways
« Reply #46 on: September 27, 2024, 10:43:48 PM »
No, Trumper. Does that help with context?

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Re: Stories not being reported that you won’t believe anyways
« Reply #47 on: September 27, 2024, 10:45:45 PM »
I'm not a trumper, DUMBASS!

Whatever. Have a good night. Wingnut.
« Last Edit: September 27, 2024, 10:50:29 PM by illiniray »
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Re: Stories not being reported that you won’t believe anyways
« Reply #48 on: September 28, 2024, 12:07:50 AM »
The problem is that we are not prosecuting people with something to lose. Start giving massive fines and then detention to employers of illegals and the problem is gone. No work, no illegal workers. QED.

But we'd rather demonize immigrants, and give some lip service with partial walls and few border cops when the powers that be DO NOT WANT TO STOP THEM. And you fall for it every time.

Why not just enforce our border like pretty much every other developed nation on the planet? No one is demonizing the illegals, they’re pissed that the powers that be are allowing this in the first place. And frankly you and Ray and alum and tempo seem to be in agreement with the powers that be, because all you ever do is argue for why it’s ok for them to be here.
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Re: Stories not being reported that you won’t believe anyways
« Reply #49 on: September 28, 2024, 12:32:17 PM »
Note also, these appear to be criminal records from their former countries. We don't know the context.

I'd probability look at data from the state of Texas.to examine the criminality among undocumented immigrants in the U.S.  Texas is one of the few states that logs immigration status in its arrest records.

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Re: Stories not being reported that you won’t believe anyways
« Reply #50 on: September 28, 2024, 12:49:48 PM »
Why not just enforce our border like pretty much every other developed nation on the planet? No one is demonizing the illegals, they’re pissed that the powers that be are allowing this in the first place. And frankly you and Ray and alum and tempo seem to be in agreement with the powers that be, because all you ever do is argue for why it’s ok for them to be here.

If Harris is elected, she should revive the negotiations that produced the bipartisan border security deal in the U.S.  Senate. 
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/new-immigration-asylum-reform-bill-released-senate-text-rcna136602

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Re: Stories not being reported that you won’t believe anyways
« Reply #51 on: September 28, 2024, 12:56:56 PM »
Why not just enforce our border like pretty much every other developed nation on the planet? No one is demonizing the illegals, they’re pissed that the powers that be are allowing this in the first place. And frankly you and Ray and alum and tempo seem to be in agreement with the powers that be, because all you ever do is argue for why it’s ok for them to be here.

It's more like who they are, where they are from, and why they are here. The ones we are talking about appear to be going through the legal due process to be removed, and there is no place to hold them.

 
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Re: Stories not being reported that you won’t believe anyways
« Reply #52 on: September 28, 2024, 12:57:31 PM »
I don’t think it’s a good enough plan, so that’s what I assume will happen.
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Re: Stories not being reported that you won’t believe anyways
« Reply #53 on: September 28, 2024, 01:12:40 PM »
I'd probability look at data from the state of Texas.to examine the criminality among undocumented immigrants in the U.S.  Texas is one of the few states that logs immigration status in its arrest records.

The following is a summary of U.S. Border Patrol enforcement actions related to arrests of criminal noncitizens for Fiscal Years 2017 - 2024.

This year total: 15,608
Illegal Entry, Re:  9,545
DUI:    2,577
Drugs: 1,414
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/cbp-enforcement-statistics/criminal-noncitizen-statistics
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Re: Stories not being reported that you won’t believe anyways
« Reply #55 on: September 28, 2024, 02:21:08 PM »
"Republicans call Harris a failed border czar. The facts tell a different story."

Harris's job had to do with diplomatic relations with Central America, getting at the underlying causes of immigration to the US. It was not about the border itself.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/republicans-call-harris-failed-border-czar-truth-is-more-complicated-2024-07-30/
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Re: Stories not being reported that you won’t believe anyways
« Reply #56 on: September 28, 2024, 02:23:29 PM »
"Republicans call Harris a failed border czar. The facts tell a different story."

Harris's job had to do with diplomatic relations with Central America, getting at the underlying causes of immigration to the US. It was not about the border itself.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/republicans-call-harris-failed-border-czar-truth-is-more-complicated-2024-07-30/

Funny thing- this wasn’t happening under Trump. So apparently she failed at finding those “underlying causes” huh?! Those causes were still there though under Trump. Only one difference. I’ll let you figure out what that is…
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Re: Stories not being reported that you won’t believe anyways
« Reply #57 on: September 28, 2024, 04:16:52 PM »
Funny thing- this wasn’t happening under Trump. So apparently she failed at finding those “underlying causes” huh?! Those causes were still there though under Trump. Only one difference. I’ll let you figure out what that is…

I gather you didn't read the article. It doesn't address Trump, but suffice to say he kicked the can down the road.

Immigration from the Golden triangle was reduced, though I dunno how much actually difference Harris made.

There was a surge from Cuba, Haiti, Venezuela and Nicaragua.
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Re: Stories not being reported that you won’t believe anyways
« Reply #58 on: September 28, 2024, 04:24:54 PM »
I gather you didn't read the article. It doesn't address Trump, but suffice to say he kicked the can down the road.

Immigration from the Golden triangle was reduced, though I dunno how much actually difference Harris made.

There was a surge from Venezuela and Nicaragua.

Yep, this many people were coming here under Trump 🙄 You’re fucking retarded if you think that. Again, there’s one MAJOR difference as to why they started coming here. I’ll let you admit what that was…
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Re: Stories not being reported that you won’t believe anyways
« Reply #59 on: September 28, 2024, 06:14:17 PM »
Yep, this many people were coming here under Trump 🙄 You’re fucking retarded if you think that. Again, there’s one MAJOR difference as to why they started coming here. I’ll let you admit what that was…

The immigrants are coming here for the same reasons they did when Trump was President.   Better life, religious freedom and economic opportunity.  Just like the Germans, Irish, Italians and Eastern Europeans before them.   
« Last Edit: September 28, 2024, 06:37:14 PM by alum74 »