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Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?

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Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?

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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #270 on: June 13, 2024, 04:59:56 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 13, 2024, 04:57:51 PM
Which you said no one charged with a crime would ever, ever do. You were fucking wrong, Know It All Assmunch. LOL.

If you want to do the Truth "just pretend with me and I can be right" thing, have at it.
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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #271 on: June 13, 2024, 05:01:16 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on June 13, 2024, 04:59:56 PM
If you want to do the Truth "just pretend with me and I can be right" thing, have at it.

Bullshit. You were wrong and cannot admit it. How predictable of a Know It All.... Go cry to your therapist.
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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #272 on: June 13, 2024, 05:08:56 PM »
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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #273 on: June 13, 2024, 05:12:45 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on June 13, 2024, 04:58:36 PM
Anyway, not sticking around - just wanted to pop in to acknowledge Shannon's acquittal and wish him well, and laugh at the people who two hours ago were purists about the presumption of innocence but now are complaining that the accuser isn't in jail.  This place is nothing if not extremely predictable.

Uh they had the day in court today. She lied. Lock her up! Now… get the fuck outta here please! You’re a righteous blowhard!
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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #274 on: June 13, 2024, 05:13:00 PM »
Really quick jury verdict of they still had testimony this morning.

Prosecutor should be put through the wringer for continuing that dogshit of a case against a public figure. It's not unreasonable to acknowledge gaps in what one knows and assume there has to be something else there but the state really didn't have anything here that could support a conviction.

I repeat my hope that this radicalizes Illinois fans about how the criminal justice system can be abused because this stuff doesn't just happen when visiting basketball teams are in town.

Big congrats to TJS team as I think the only verdict permitted by law, but it seems the morally right one as well.
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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #275 on: June 13, 2024, 05:15:53 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on June 13, 2024, 05:12:45 PM
Uh they had the day in court today. She lied. Lock her up! Now… get the fuck outta here please! You’re a righteous blowhard!
No, you should not be charged criminally for being mistaken to the police.

The prosecutor should be sued civilly and immunity attacked for taking a case to verdict on unreasonable evidence.

Target the bad system, not the 18 year olds the system exploits.
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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #276 on: June 13, 2024, 05:23:36 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on June 13, 2024, 04:58:36 PM
Anyway, not sticking around - just wanted to pop in to acknowledge Shannon's acquittal and wish him well, and laugh at the people who two hours ago were purists about the presumption of innocence but now are complaining that the accuser isn't in jail.  This place is nothing if not extremely predictable.
It's fucking ridiculous. We just watched the machine abuse what is likely an innocent person for months and risk him millions.

Now you want to turn that on an 18 year old because something bad happened to her, she probably identified the wrong guy, and the state pursued a case it shouldn't have?

They're both victims of the same damn thing. And who do you think the shithead state courts hurt more in the long run? Guys who look like TJS or her? So if you don't want this to happen to the next Terrence Shannon why the fuck would you not *fix the fucking broken machine*?
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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #277 on: June 13, 2024, 05:26:14 PM »
Quote from: illinicalvin on June 13, 2024, 05:15:53 PM
No, you should not be charged criminally for being mistaken to the police.

The prosecutor should be sued civilly and immunity attacked for taking a case to verdict on unreasonable evidence.

Target the bad system, not the 18 year olds the system exploits.

Will be interesting to see if he decides to assert his legal rights in this case. Seems like there are a few possible defendants here.
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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #278 on: June 13, 2024, 05:26:57 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on June 13, 2024, 05:12:45 PM
Uh they had the day in court today. She lied. Lock her up! Now… get the fuck outta here please! You’re a righteous blowhard!
We don't even know that she lied about anything from the jury verdict. She could telling the truth and it simply doesn't hit beyond reasonable doubt. How on Earth would you even convict her?

Pitchfork carrying dipshittery.
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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #279 on: June 13, 2024, 05:27:46 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on June 13, 2024, 05:26:14 PM
Will be interesting to see if he decides to assert his legal rights in this case. Seems like there are a few possible defendants here.
He seems to have gotten fucked by the police and they have only qualified immunity so here's hoping!
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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #280 on: June 13, 2024, 05:30:00 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on June 13, 2024, 05:12:45 PM
Uh they had the day in court today. She lied. Lock her up! Now… get the fuck outta here please! You’re a righteous blowhard!

Unsurprisingly, you make it clear immediately that you have no idea how this works whatsoever.

If she knowingly lied then put her on trial, but she has the same presumption of innocence you were so stringent about when it meant your favorite basketball team wouldn’t be as good.
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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #281 on: June 13, 2024, 05:30:09 PM »
Quote from: illinicalvin on June 13, 2024, 05:26:57 PM
We don't even know that she lied about anything from the jury verdict. She could telling the truth and it simply doesn't hit beyond reasonable doubt. How on Earth would you even convict her?

Pitchfork carrying dipshittery.

There were some inconsistencies between what she told the police and what she testified on direct that were highlighted on cross. The friend's testimony, as reported, was far more problematic in this regard.

The prosecution didn't even bring the complaining witness back on rebuttal for cleanup, as planned, after Shannon testified.
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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #282 on: June 13, 2024, 05:31:33 PM »
Quote from: illinicalvin on June 13, 2024, 05:27:46 PM
He seems to have gotten fucked by the police and they have only qualified immunity so here's hoping!

Well, when the cop cancels the interview with Shannon because the cop is going on vacation to Florida...
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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #283 on: June 13, 2024, 05:31:35 PM »
Quote from: illinicalvin on June 13, 2024, 05:23:36 PM
It's fucking ridiculous. We just watched the machine abuse what is likely an innocent person for months and risk him millions.

Now you want to turn that on an 18 year old because something bad happened to her, she probably identified the wrong guy, and the state pursued a case it shouldn't have?

They're both victims of the same damn thing. And who do you think the shithead state courts hurt more in the long run? Guys who look like TJS or her? So if you don't want this to happen to the next Terrence Shannon why the fuck would you not *fix the fucking broken machine*?

You’re thinking about this like an intelligent, well adjusted person and not a meathead Illini fan.
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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #284 on: June 13, 2024, 05:32:04 PM »
He should absolutely file a civil suit against the DA’s office. TSJ’s defense attorney said it best regarding them in court.

Edit- although he might have more class than that.
« Last Edit: June 13, 2024, 05:34:04 PM by Judge Judy »
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