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Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?

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Voting closed: January 26, 2024, 10:59:11 AM

Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?

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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #120 on: May 16, 2024, 08:03:10 PM »
Now that would be something.

Morris is the person who was accused of a similar act in the same bar.
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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #121 on: May 16, 2024, 08:08:07 PM »
"9. It has recently come to the attention of the defense that a female patron at the same bar involved in Mr. Shannon’s Complaint alleges that she was present at the bar on August 26, 2023, when a black male (“3rd party”) sexually assaulted her in the “corner” of a room at the bar by grabbing her vagina. (Counsel for the State has confirmed the date and general location of the alleged assault by the 3rd party. Counsel for Mr. Shannon inquired of the State if the August assault took place in the “corner” of the Martini room. Counsel for the State refused to provide this information.) Unlike M.N., the victim was wearing pants at the time, such that the perpetrator was not able to touch her under her clothing.

10. This victim reported the allegations to University of Kansas Police and ultimately—after September 9, 2023--the 3rd party was charged with raping the victim at different location on the same night as the alleged assault in the bar. Those charges were subsequently dismissed.

11. Counsel has recently determined that the 3rd party identified as responsible for the August sexual assault (less than 2 weeks prior to incident in which Mr. Shannon is allegedly involved) was present at the bar, in the room, and in the same vicinity around the time that M.N. was allegedly assaulted."


Arterio Morris is the 3rd party .
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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #122 on: May 16, 2024, 10:05:54 PM »
Illini homerism but with legal analysis.

If she really was looking straight ahead, should have a directed verdict granted. But hearsay about the speculated acts of a third party in the same room ain't going to do much. Not a person on that reply thread would find that exculpatory if the victim were an Illinois fan and the defendant was a Michigan football player.

They can always try and call him as a witness... Also could give them an avenue when questioning the cops and her
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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #123 on: May 17, 2024, 09:54:43 AM »
They can always try and call him as a witness... Also could give them an avenue when questioning the cops and her
The best case scenario is that other guy pleaing the 5th and refusing to testify.

The cops are the best avenue probably but could backfire spectacularly. For example: "Of course we looked into him. There are only two black guys on the footage and he had multiple alibi witnesses. TSJ didn't"

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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #124 on: May 17, 2024, 09:58:11 AM »
The best case scenario is that other guy pleaing the 5th and refusing to testify.

The cops are the best avenue probably but could backfire spectacularly. For example: "Of course we looked into him. There are only two black guys on the footage and he had multiple alibi witnesses. TSJ didn't"

Sure it could. Would think they would be savvy enough to prevent that from happening though.

All they have to do is create reasonable doubt in one person
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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #125 on: May 17, 2024, 09:59:05 AM »
Do we know the alleged sequence of events? I find it implausible Morris would be focused on another girl assault a second, and then go back to the first to assault somewhere else. But if the alleged TSJ assault occurred earlier and then Morris hooked up with/assaulted the other woman, that has potential legs, although it would require the police and prosecution to be startlingly incompetent (not a hard sell)

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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #126 on: May 17, 2024, 11:34:43 AM »
Have we shifted from "she's a slut and a liar who made it all up and they should throw her in jail" to "she's a victim of a sexual assault but she accused the wrong guy"?

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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #127 on: May 17, 2024, 11:41:53 AM »
Have we shifted from "she's a slut and a liar who made it all up and they should throw her in jail" to "she's a victim of a sexual assault but she accused the wrong guy"?

For all we know, both could be true....or false.
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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #128 on: May 17, 2024, 11:51:40 AM »
So maybe it was pretty gross to go after the accuser for months, attack her personally, say she should be jailed, and slut shame her, given that no one here has any way to know.

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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #129 on: May 17, 2024, 11:54:07 AM »
Have we shifted from "she's a slut and a liar who made it all up and they should throw her in jail" to "she's a victim of a sexual assault but she accused the wrong guy"?


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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #130 on: May 17, 2024, 11:54:15 AM »
August 26: Morris allegedly sexually assaulted a woman at the JayHawk Cafe by grabbing her vagina. Later the same day, he allegedly raped the same victim.

Morris was charged Sept 9, but the case was dismissed w/o prejudice Apr 9, 2024

Sept 8: Shannon allegedly digitally raped a woman from behind while she was standing against a wall at JayHawk Cafe. The accuser apparently assumed the perp was the man standing to her her left. She later used the Internet to identify him as Shannon.
 
Morris was present in the  JayHawk Cafe that night.
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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #131 on: May 17, 2024, 11:55:25 AM »
So maybe it was pretty gross to go after the accuser for months, attack her personally, say she should be jailed, and slut shame her, given that no one here has any way to know.

We may find out if these people were AOTC or not.
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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #132 on: May 17, 2024, 11:56:48 AM »
August 26: Morris allegedly sexually assaulted a woman at the JayHawk Cafe by grabbing her vagina. Later the same day, he allegedly raped the same victim.

Morris was charged Sept 9, but the case was dismissed w/o prejudice Apr 9, 2024

Sept 8: Shannon allegedly digitally raped a woman from behind while she was standing against a wall at JayHawk Cafe. The accuser apparently assumed the perp was the man standing to her her left. She later used the Internet to identify him as Shannon.
 
Morris was present in the  JayHawk Cafe that night.

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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #133 on: May 17, 2024, 11:57:53 AM »
So maybe it was pretty gross to go after the accuser for months, attack her personally, say she should be jailed, and slut shame her, given that no one here has any way to know.

She doesn’t even know who did it. Yeah, I’d say that’s a pretty big deal when she blames someone…
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Re: Should Terrence Shannon play while awaiting trial?
« Reply #134 on: May 17, 2024, 11:59:04 AM »
So maybe it was pretty gross to go after the accuser for months, attack her personally, say she should be jailed, and slut shame her, given that no one here has any way to know.

Blame anybody even if they did it or not and ruin their life! Just not her or hers! 😂 get the fuck outta here!
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