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Re: Bears @ Browns
« Reply #390 on: December 17, 2023, 07:54:33 PM »
Quote from: Aging out Linebacker on December 17, 2023, 07:48:43 PM
At least this is fair criticism. This is from a scout, who probably wouldn’t be quick to call out coaching. Particularly from a team he used to work for.



Well, he is a former scout, but the fact is that Fields has not progressed as hoped.  Who is at fault? Everyone, including Fields.
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Re: Bears @ Browns
« Reply #391 on: December 17, 2023, 07:55:20 PM »
Quote from: Aging out Linebacker on December 17, 2023, 07:50:32 PM
It’s Fields’ fault, Obvi!



They said with the wind, they were 8 yards out of his range.

It's fair to criticize them for not going deeper on the plays leading up to that, for sure.

You continually try to pretend others want to blame EVERYTHING on Fields, but that's absolutely false.  The reality is that, most of us want to blame Fields' play on Fields, but you insist that no one blame any thing on Fields, ever - including his play.

If after the game I'd said "The Bears defense played well enough to win but were held back by terrible playcalling and mediocre as fuck QB play" and you'd said "yep, rough day from Getsy and Fields" then we could've shaken on it and moved on.  But you cannot stomach anyone criticizing Fields ever, for anything, period - so you've spent the 4 hours since arguing that Fields wasn't actually mediocre and that if he looked like he was, it was everyone else's fault.  You obviously have lost the thread, you're completely unreasonable regarding Fields at this point.  Simply completely unwilling to accept any criticism of him for anything he does at any point.
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Re: Bears @ Browns
« Reply #392 on: December 17, 2023, 07:56:03 PM »
Tempo trotting out all the usual The Score Suspects. Awesome.
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Re: Bears @ Browns
« Reply #393 on: December 17, 2023, 07:56:51 PM »
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Bears @ Browns
« Reply #394 on: December 17, 2023, 07:56:52 PM »
Quote from: Aging out Linebacker on December 17, 2023, 07:54:00 PM


I haven't seen a single person criticizing him because he didn't bail us out with 30 seconds to go.  That's just a convenient strawman for people who don't want to talk about how he actually played today.

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Re: Bears @ Browns
« Reply #395 on: December 17, 2023, 07:57:40 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 17, 2023, 07:55:20 PM
They said with the wind, they were 8 yards out of his range.

It's fair to criticize them for not going deeper on the plays leading up to that, for sure.

You continually try to pretend others want to blame EVERYTHING on Fields, but that's absolutely false.  The reality is that, most of us want to blame Fields' play on Fields, but you insist that no one blame any thing on Fields, ever - including his play.

If after the game I'd said "The Bears defense played well enough to win but were held back by terrible playcalling and mediocre as fuck QB play" and you'd said "yep, rough day from Fields" then we could've shaken on it and moved on.  But you cannot stomach anyone criticizing Fields ever, for anything, period - so you've spent the 4 hours since arguing that Fields wasn't actually mediocre and that if he looked like he was, it was everyone else's fault.  You obviously have lost the thread, you're completely unreasonable regarding Fields at this point.  Simply completely unwilling to accept any criticism of him for anything he does at any point.

Jones #93 covering the TE on the Zone Blitz did not work out, that is for sure.
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Re: Bears @ Browns
« Reply #396 on: December 17, 2023, 07:57:58 PM »
Quote from: Aging out Linebacker on December 17, 2023, 07:56:51 PM
https://x.com/emmanuelacho/status/1736461552268509263?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ

It was a great play, no doubt.

Holding onto a guy who's started 36 games because of the plays he CAN make instead of the type of plays he makes with consistency is a good way to totally fuck up your football team's future in the long term.  This is exactly the kind of play Caleb Williams CAN make, without question - whether he will be able to reign it in and make the regular plays consistently is the question.  Fields has not done that.

We're still talking about ceiling for a guy who has started THIRTY SIX NFL GAMES.  It defies all logic.
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Re: Bears @ Browns
« Reply #397 on: December 17, 2023, 07:58:44 PM »
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Bears @ Browns
« Reply #398 on: December 17, 2023, 07:59:14 PM »
Quote from: Aging out Linebacker on December 17, 2023, 07:58:44 PM
Rough. Pressure with 3 man rush.

https://x.com/chicago_jay1/status/1736498588971077833?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ

Do you search on X for "excuses for Fields" or what?  Like, it's crazy how you can just run out a never-ending list of excuses for the guy for months.
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Re: Bears @ Browns
« Reply #399 on: December 17, 2023, 07:59:31 PM »
Quote from: Aging out Linebacker on December 17, 2023, 07:45:55 PM
Trey knows how to use the most base stats to make a stupid argument. Yay for Trey. Look at Fields’ numbers compared to other QBs who’ve played at Cleveland this year. They’re about average. And when you factor in drops they would have been significantly better. How many of those incompletions were throwaways? Was Fields great today? No. But he was better than probably anyone else on the offense. Including his coach.

The stats are the stats……………… a few EXTRA dots, wait for it……………………….. until they’re not…
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Re: Bears @ Browns
« Reply #400 on: December 17, 2023, 08:01:18 PM »
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Bears @ Browns
« Reply #401 on: December 17, 2023, 08:02:31 PM »
Quote from: Aging out Linebacker on December 17, 2023, 08:01:18 PM


When you've fallen to this level, you can't even see the light anymore.

This shit is pathetic man.  You're better than this.  No one thinks Caleb Williams makes Mooney make the miracle play here.  Zero people.  It was a prayer, no matter who threw it.

But I guess at the end of the day, if you can't trust @FieldsGoatQB1 on Twitter, who really counts as a credible source?
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Re: Bears @ Browns
« Reply #402 on: December 17, 2023, 08:04:01 PM »
I apologize guys, I said Fields had a 60 yard TD dropped. It was an 80 yard TD (that was perfect 60 yards downfield). Play better, Justin.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Bears @ Browns
« Reply #403 on: December 17, 2023, 08:04:29 PM »
Quote from: Aging out Linebacker on December 17, 2023, 08:04:01 PM
I apologize guys, I said Fields had a 60 yard TD dropped. It was an 80 yard TD (that was perfect 60 yards downfield). Play better, Justin.

Maybe time to grow up a little Tempo?  You're melting down like a 6 year old right now.
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Re: Bears @ Browns
« Reply #404 on: December 17, 2023, 08:04:36 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 17, 2023, 08:02:31 PM
When you've fallen to this level, you can't even see the light anymore.

This shit is pathetic man.  You're better than this.  No one thinks Caleb Williams makes Mooney make the miracle play here.  Zero people.  It was a prayer, no matter who threw it.

Yeah, it’s sarcasm.
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