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Re: THE JFC Thread!
« Reply #4620 on: August 05, 2024, 10:07:23 PM »
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« Reply #4621 on: August 05, 2024, 11:47:56 PM »
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« Reply #4622 on: August 06, 2024, 03:04:57 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on August 05, 2024, 10:06:41 PM
He has to say that right now.

Well yeah, he traded for him to play quarterback.
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« Reply #4623 on: August 06, 2024, 07:27:05 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on August 06, 2024, 03:04:57 AM
Well yeah, he traded for him to play quarterback.

Except they floated the KR trial balloon which Fields selfishly, of course, rejected.
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« Reply #4624 on: August 06, 2024, 10:32:13 AM »
Sometimes you make Glenn Beck look grounded.
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« Reply #4625 on: August 19, 2024, 11:07:23 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 03, 2023, 08:22:42 PM
He’s been part of his problem. He also hasn’t had a lot of help. When did Tua all of a sudden become good? When he got Hill, Waddle, and McDaniel. They were regretting drafting him his first couple of years.

When did Allen make a jump? When he got Stephon Diggs. A top 5-7 WR.

When did Hurts make a jump? When he got AJ Brown and Devonta Smith.

Yes, Fields has had DJ, but he didn’t even have a healthy line (a line that couldn’t afford injuries) from the get-go this year. There were lots of moving parts. It’s only the last few weeks the team has gotten healthier and had a chance to play together. And guess what, it’s starting to look better.

Oh, and his OC is a bottom 5 OC in the league…

This is me (on one of many occasions) where I said Fields has been part of his own problem FTR.
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« Reply #4626 on: August 19, 2024, 11:08:33 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 04, 2023, 10:20:40 AM
Dude, I get the criticisms of Justin Fields. A lot of it is valid. I’m merely saying I wouldn’t give up on him yet. He has not had a good supporting cast for any length of time whatsoever. And that includes coaches and GMs that have been failing him. Don’t realize how bad the Bears have sucked the last 4-5 years? Especially offensively? They have been totally bereft of talent.

“A lot of the criticism (of Fields) is valid.”
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« Reply #4627 on: August 19, 2024, 11:10:34 AM »
I’m not going to rummage through 300+ pages for more, but it’s there. Fields has is own issues and I’ve acknowledged that many times. I’ve just been of the belief with more experience and upgrades in talent and coaching, he can be a dynamic (if not perfect) quarterback.
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« Reply #4628 on: August 19, 2024, 11:15:12 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on August 19, 2024, 11:07:23 AM
This is me (on one of many occasions) where I said Fields has been part of his own problem FTR.

Yes, but there is a lot of context missing. I'm guessing that post was made after Fields criticism by some, and dick sucking by you.

You can't say someone is great, then say he's not perfect, then come back and say "I said he wasn't perfect!" That's kinda bunk.

That's why last season was miserable with you.
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« Reply #4629 on: August 19, 2024, 11:17:24 AM »
I said he has the potential to be great. Some of the plays he makes are great. You can look at his stats and tell he isn’t “great.” Even though I don’t think the mediocre (to sometimes bad) stats are entirely his fault. You guys selectively read to the nth degree.
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« Reply #4630 on: August 19, 2024, 11:18:56 AM »
He’s a dynamic playmaker. Pretty much anyone should agree with that. I never once tried to say he was anywhere near a finished product. Never ever ever.
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« Reply #4631 on: August 19, 2024, 11:21:22 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on August 19, 2024, 11:17:24 AM
I said he has the potential to be great. Some of the plays he makes are great. You can look at his stats and tell he isn’t “great.” Even though I don’t think the mediocre (to sometimes bad) stats are entirely his fault. You guys selectively read to the nth degree.

All NFL quarterbacks drafted in the first round have the potential to be great. And some of the plays they make are great. You don't get to be a first round pick without that ability. And yes, I can look at his stats and tell he didn't turn out to be great. And yes, some of that isn't his fault. But some of it is.

We actually agree on a lot of this stuff. Problem is, Fields didn't work out here. You weren't going to pass on Caleb Williams to keep that. He wasn't good enough. I think we agree on that.
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« Reply #4632 on: August 19, 2024, 11:22:18 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on August 19, 2024, 11:18:56 AM
He’s a dynamic playmaker. Pretty much anyone should agree with that. I never once tried to say he was anywhere near a finished product. Never ever ever.

He is good at running the ball. That makes for some dynamic plays. He's not a dynamic quarterback.
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« Reply #4633 on: August 19, 2024, 11:23:00 AM »
I would challenge anyone to quote a post where I said Justin was a finished product or even “a great QB.”He has great “WOW” moments, but I’ve never tried to make the case he doesn’t need to improve. Never. As in not once. Ever.
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« Reply #4634 on: August 19, 2024, 11:25:09 AM »
Quote from: Jobu on August 19, 2024, 11:22:18 AM
He is good at running the ball. That makes for some dynamic plays. He's not a dynamic quarterback.

He makes some great throws. He needs to get rid of it faster, and be better with the layups. I’ve never argued otherwise. Ever. Again, I challenge someone to quote something to the contrary. Saying he’s had poor support isn’t the same as saying he can’t do more to help himself. I’ve said he needs to do more to help himself probably 20x at least.
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