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Re: THE JFC Thread!
« Reply #3630 on: January 08, 2024, 01:55:52 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on January 08, 2024, 01:54:27 PM
If Brad Spielberger, Esq. said it, it must be true.

The old go to move (used literally every time). Discredit the source.
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« Reply #3631 on: January 08, 2024, 02:05:16 PM »
Quote from: Fields First Fan on January 08, 2024, 01:55:52 PM
The old go to move (used literally every time). Discredit the source.

How do we know what his measurements are for "pressures"? Who is this guy? The efforts you go to defend such a shit QB are laughable.

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« Reply #3632 on: January 08, 2024, 02:41:38 PM »
Quote from: Fields First Fan on January 08, 2024, 01:52:55 PM
That’s never been a major theme in my arguments.

Yes, it has been.
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« Reply #3633 on: January 08, 2024, 03:07:16 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on January 08, 2024, 02:41:38 PM
Yes, it has been.

No, it hasn’t. My stance all along has been continue to build the 53 man roster and then find the quarterback if need be. I am also totally on board with using a top 10 pick to draft someone (a QB). I would keep fields as well. I don’t necessarily feel the need to draft someone at one because I think that capital is better. Spent getting multiple high pics. And then, yes, the bust rate on top picks is pretty high.
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« Reply #3634 on: January 08, 2024, 03:14:17 PM »
If yesterday proved anything, it’s that the Bears aren’t a QB away.
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« Reply #3635 on: January 08, 2024, 03:16:44 PM »
Quote from: Fields First Fan on January 08, 2024, 03:14:17 PM
If yesterday proved anything, it’s that the Bears aren’t a QB away.

It proved they need to fire the OC and HC and take the rare opportunity to start a new regime with the top QB in the draft.

It’s insane how hard you ride for this dude.  He is mediocre.  That’s what he’s been his entire career.
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« Reply #3636 on: January 08, 2024, 03:19:39 PM »
I’ll also say that a good QB would’ve won the game yesterday.  17 points isn’t insurmountable.  If we had a QB who could put the ball in the end zone, we would’ve won.

Doesn’t mean I “blame” Fields, better play calling could’ve won it too even with a mediocre QB.  But I doubt a really good quarterback would’ve lost.
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« Reply #3637 on: January 08, 2024, 03:23:47 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on January 08, 2024, 03:16:44 PM
It proved they need to fire the OC and HC and take the rare opportunity to start a new regime with the top QB in the draft.

It’s insane how hard you ride for this dude.  He is mediocre.  That’s what he’s been his entire career.

Well, that is ONE logical approach. Again ONE logical approach.
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« Reply #3638 on: January 08, 2024, 03:25:35 PM »
Quote from: Fields First Fan on January 08, 2024, 03:23:47 PM
Well, that is ONE logical approach. Again ONE logical approach.

It’s the one logical approach that is based in the actual production and results and not some hope that if you build an absolutely perfect roster you can figure out the most important part at the end.

We saw yesterday that good QB play + no name mediocre receivers can torch you in the NFL. And even though the Bears pass catchers are better, they couldn’t move the ball through the air.

Get an actually good QB on this team with DJ and another top-10 WR and a new OC, and we can cook with gas instead of hoping smashing rocks together starts a fire.
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« Reply #3639 on: January 08, 2024, 03:26:30 PM »
Green Bay’s receivers are not mediocre
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« Reply #3640 on: January 08, 2024, 03:27:42 PM »
They are a talented young group, that is clearly well coached. And of course, getting some nice quarterback play.
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« Reply #3641 on: January 08, 2024, 03:29:53 PM »
Quote from: Fields First Fan on January 08, 2024, 03:26:30 PM
Green Bay’s receivers are not mediocre

Well at their best they’re certainly worse than DJ Moore, and the decent ones didn’t play.

His top receivers yesterday were Jayden Reed (a 2nd round rookie), Dontayvion Wicks (a 5th round rookie) and Bo Melton (a 7th rounder who spent last year on the Seattle practice squad).

Sell that as a murderer’s row if you’d like but I doubt anyone would trade the Bears’ WR corps for those three.

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« Reply #3642 on: January 08, 2024, 03:30:03 PM »
I would argue just about their entire group is playing at a level above Darnell Mooney, you call me crazy, let’s see if the Bears re-sign Mooney, which doesn’t look likely because apparently they believe it too.
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« Reply #3643 on: January 08, 2024, 03:32:35 PM »
They have a competent passer throwing them the ball.  That tends to help a WR.
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« Reply #3644 on: January 08, 2024, 03:33:41 PM »
Would you trade Justin Fields for Jordan Love?
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